Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA: Morally Good but Biblically Dangerous and Destructive, with an Inevitable Paradoxical Effect

Just over a month ago a courageous man with good and noble intentions, a loving husband and father was gunned down in cold blood by an evil, cowardly, leftist, woke and utterly reprobate beast (cf. Rom 1:28-32). Few spheres of the world were untouched by this tragic event, of the slaying of Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), a man with more courage then 99% of so-called "pastors" today. His value and appreciation by the Republican party as a right-wing activist was abundantly demonstrated by well known figures of the world, including by President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance who shortly after his death was publicly announced gave eulogies, had his body transported from Utah in Air Force Two accompanied by Vance, the U.S. House of Representatives passing a resolution honouring Kirk, the American flag flown at half mast across the nation and a memorial service at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, AZ, which drew 100,000+ people and attended by President Trump along with other government officials, while watched by 100 million viewers that day. Charlie Kirks impact on America couldn't be overstated.

Our hearts are shattered for Erica and their young children, "weep[ing] with them that weep." (Rom 12:15b). This murder greatly saddened us, and angered us even more. Not merely because of the shedding of innocent blood, but because many of the left, woke evil beasts, took the time out of their day to celebrate his death, which is really unsurprising from the diabolical demoncratic party of death that perfect reflects their father the Devil (Jn 10:10a, "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:"). We could stay angry with this kind of reaction. Vengeance had come to mind against the left, and there is a massive amount of damage that we could do, but then God reminds us that vengeance belongs to Him. Anger is appropriate in the sense of righteous indignation, but not in something that continues long term and especially that carries into retribution. We are thankful for the work of aborting the left that Trump is doing, and we pray that all its evil masters will be brought to justice. Justice! Something that God cares more for than anything, including the sacrifice of your own self:

“To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.” (Pr 21:3)

Kirk was a courageous leader, a very knowledgeable and intelligent man, which is unsurprising considering his reading of 100 books/year, and not brainwashed by universities and colleges. His massive impact upon people couldn't be overestimated. His cool, collected, calm, and compassionate demeanour in dealing with people that opposed him, hated him or just hated his beliefs and values, was highly commendable and praiseworthy. His love for America and fight to retain her values and liberty is greatly applaudable and honourable. For what he has done for the nation, he certainly deserved the Presidential Medal of Freedom, awarded him posthumously on his birthday, Oct 14th.

To be frank, we had no intentions of writing any report on Kirk, and had intended to just let it be, and not draw any negativity to the situation. A lot, and we mean a lot, has been written and preached about Charlie, so we had no desire of adding to all that and writing anything concerning him or his organization TPUSA. But what changed our mind, which we believe was conviction of the Lord by the Scriptures, is the dangerous and corrupted elements of neo-evangelical Christianity that is being accepted either as truth or just ignored because he was martyred, and at alarming speeds, leading to disastrous results including the one world church. Thus, we could not be silent, our hearts burned to speak the truth and expose the false way. I have heard people say many different things about Charlie, ‘He preached the gospel,’ ‘Charlie feared the Lord,’ and so forth. But is it true, or is completely true, or does that offset any errors or sins that were being tolerated or embraced? Yes he preached some elements of the gospel, but what about the rest of the Bible? Everything is essential in scripture. There is nothing non-essential. "All the counsel of God" (Ac 20:27), and soundly (Ti 1:9; 2:1, 2 Tim 4:3), is the only standard for those who will publicly teach and preach Christianity.

We would've really liked to only write positive things about Kirk, but that just simply wasn't possible. Our response to Charlie Kirk and TPUSA is not a cultural or political response, but a Biblical response. This report is not to berate or tear apart Charlie Kirk or undermine all the good that he did, but to expose the dangerous philosophies that Charlie and TPUSA embraced, in unison with vast majority of Christendom today. No, the good does not somehow outweigh the bad. That is not Biblical. Everything must be measured on the yard stick of God's Word, and all public errors and lies done in the name of Christianity must be publicly exposed. The bad will destroy anything and everything even remotely categorized as good, like one bad apple in a barrel of good ones, to which the Bible warns repeatedly. "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump," whether it be sin (1 Cor 5:6) or doctrinal error (Gal 5:9).

Again, our objective here is not to detract from any good that Kirk did or the importance of the warfare that he underwent on the university campuses, but to report whether what he did was biblical or not, which is reporting another side that is often ignored or shovelled under the rug for some greater good. The view that the ends justify the means, is not Biblical; it is pragmatic compromise.

We must present reports of this nature as a matter of conscience and obedience. The Lord Jesus Christ rebuked false teachers publicly (Matt 23), and the apostles followed in His footsteps, especially Paul who penned half the NT, and he explicitly stated we are to follow his words and ways (1 Cor 4:16-17). He and the other apostles rebuked and warned of false teachers and compromisers by name. Paul even rebuked Peter before the entire church at Antioch for his compromise of the truth (Gal. 2:9-14), then described the scene in an epistle publicly before all the world to see. In the Pastoral Epistles alone, ten men are mentioned publicly for their errors (1 Tim 1:19-20, 2 Tim 1:15; 2:17; 4:10, 14-16). We are commanded to “preach the word . . . reprove, rebuke, and exhort” (2 Tim 4:2). In Rom 16:17-18 and 2 Tim 3:8-9 we are commanded to expose men who willfully preach error, false doctrine and corrupt the Word of God. Thus, reproving and exposing error is a matter of obedience. It is also love, a great act of charity--agape love.

Morally Good

Preaching of some truth, Christian witness.

We are happy for every mention of the truth and the gospel by Kirk and other people involved at TPUSA when they do, and when Charlie did, which he did on occasion from Scripture in public speaking, social media posts, interviews, and writings, frequently addressing degenerate and evil issues of our day. He was very outspoken and gave good, though basic, Biblical responses to people who would ask him about eternity and what they need to do if they had mere seconds to live. In one such example, a man asks Charlie what he would tell him if he had only thirty seconds left to live. Charlie responds,

"In thirty seconds you are about to meet eternal judgment and there is only one way that you can get bailed out of that. It's not all the good things you did or your moral scorecard, but whether or not you have Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Thats the only thing thats going to matter. You have ten seconds left, you are dying from a gunshot wound, you ask the question, 'who is Jesus Christ?' And the answer to that singular question 'who is Jesus Christ?,' is the most important for everyone in the audience. Not how much money you have, or how much stuff you do, who is Jesus Christ, You might say, oh Jesus is a teller of good tales, or Jesus was a good person, or Jesus was a historical figure, none of that is going to cut it. It is whether or not you repent and you ask Jesus Christ to come in as your Lord and Saviour, thats the only thing thats going to save you from eternal damnation."

Though it is very basic, and there are things stated in there that are not Biblically accurate, overall we believe this could be sufficient for someone to get saved, though its weak and does not explain what repentance is, or surrender to Christ, man's sinful condition and just punishment thereof. But in the limited time frame given, it could be acceptable. So did he call people to the true new birth through repentance and faith? It appears to some degree, but not really to the extent where it needed it to be — people are not typically saved through a thirty second run down of the gospel (though they could be), but through a thorough understanding of the gospel, who God is, who God the Son is, who they are, and why they need to be saved, all of which is time consuming and could take a period of hours, days, weeks or even months. This truth is incorporated into Christ's instruction of the Great Commission, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations..." (Matt 28:19), with "teaching" referring to making unsaved people (sinners) disciples of Christ, "teaching" and "disciple" translated from the same Greek word (matheteuo) and literally means "to disciple," "to become a pupil," "to enrol as scholar, "to teach." Jesus is referring to the act of conversion here, which is teaching and educating unsaved people to becoming disciples of Christ, the new birth -- go, convert, followed by baptism, "baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Technically one is not saved through "ask[ing] Jesus Christ to come in as your Lord and Saviour,"--which is very similar in wording to asking Jesus into ones heart (a corruption of the gospel)--just like we are not saved by asking for the gift, but we are saved by repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and His gospel, in His provision and redemption for sin. Repentance and faith are the singular acts of the sinner required for conversion, that bring the sinner into a righteous position before God and a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, which means having Jesus Christ in the person as Lord and Saviour. He is using possession language here that applies to the saved person, after they have received Jesus Christ, not to receive Jesus Christ. These things are not the same and it reminds us of "the gift" that we receive at salvation, exclaimed in Rom 6:23, "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" -- the gift is not received by asking for it, but by doing what Scripture tells us to do to be saved and thus receive the gift (Ac 20:21; Mk 1:14-15).

Kirk does not appear to have a clear Biblical testimony of salvation. Some resources state that he claimed to have made a profession of faith at the age of 11, while others around the age of 18, but no crystal clear instantaneous moment of supernatural and superdramatic new birth experience can be found. Some sources label his alleged salvation as gradual, versus instantaneous, but there is no such Biblical thing as a gradual new birth, though the period prior to the new birth is almost always gradual. In spite of this big blemish, Kirk’s doctrine of salvation closely aligned with Scripture, which can easily be the case when the Bible education is sufficient, frequently noted in people that are raised in devout professing Christian homes. He did believe that salvation is a free gift from God, not earned by good works, but received through personal faith in Jesus Christ’s atoning death and resurrection. Concerning the gospel, he would reference scriptures such Jn 14:6, Eph 2:8-9, and Rom 10:9, which are relevant passages on salvation, a few among many in Scripture. Kirk often urged his listeners to “repent and trust in Jesus Christ alone,” viewing salvation as eternal security for believers while warning of judgment for those who reject it. This is good. In a mini-testimony video from early 2025, he shared: “They will spend eternity apart from Him unless they repent and trust in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation. Preach that. Explain that.” He integrated this into his activism, seeing political conservatism as secondary to spiritual renewal, and frequently posted Bible verses on X encouraging people to “tell someone about Jesus” or “spend time with Jesus.”

Though Charlie preached some truth of the gospel and other Biblical truths, Charlies gospel was not the same pure and true gospel of the Bible. It was much more aligned with easy believism and quick prayerism than the true gospel of Scripture. It was also impure based upon the things he believed and associated with, not just the few words he spoke concerning the gospel. One's gospel is a reflection of everything you believe and practice. For instance, if you say you preach the true gospel but are in love with the world, your gospel is not pure and true to Scripture. It is tainted, impure and reflects spiritual adultery. Consider a Biblical example -- Paul reproving Peter publicly and before the church in Gal 2 for creating dissimulation and division between the Jews and Gentiles in the local church, which Paul said was a gospel issue ("But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?" - Gal 2:14). The gospel that Charlie Kirk preached had Biblical points to it, but it was not the complete and pure gospel of God's Word. Just because Charlie preached some truth, does not mean he was an example for born again believers to follow, or lost people to be saved. And as we will see, there were a lot of other serious issues with his beliefs and practices, which succinctly suggest reproof, exposure, and separation.

Good Biblical marriage values.

Charlie embraced traditional marriage, and opposed untraditional marriage. Kirks love for his wife and children was well demonstrated and commendable, and many, very many, have spoken publicly about it. The Charlie Kirk podcast episode Charlie & Erika Kirk: Family, Faith, and How to Build a Successful Life is a good example concerning a number of areas on marriage and finding your future spouse. Their stance on biblical marriage was good and fairly Biblical, especially in contrast to the feminism and the ungodly marriage teachings by psychologists and many others today, leading to high rates of divorce and remarriage.

However, with that said, their marriage went beyond a normal Biblical marriage to one bordering on idolatry and unBiblical toleration, especially what was presented to the public eye. This comes as no surprise to this writer, for this type of marriage idolatry and effeminate heresy is very common amongst neo-evangelicals who are being brainwashed almost across the board in psychoheresy (which undoubtedly was true for the Kirk's), by psychologists in their "churches," "pastors" entrenched with psychological training and philosophies thanks in large part to ungodly neo-evangelical false teachers such as James Dobson, and books that are taught in these institutions as programs, such as the horribly heretical and unBiblical Love & Respect, and Five Love Languages. Like the typical neo-evangelical marriage, it was all cheery, roses and fluff. What the world coins as marriage success leaves out the husband sanctifying the wife like Christ sanctifies the church (Eph 5; 1 Cor 14:35). That doesn't always look so cheery or so "cute." Sanctification looks messy, but the goal through the leadership of the husband is the glory of God, not being a cute couple, which is how Charlie and Erika have been portrayed more often than not.

Lastly, any good and truthful thing they embraced and demonstrated in their marriage is nothing new or unusual to this writer and reflects not some pinnacle of Christianity, for it should be a given in any marriage, saved or unsaved, since "Marriage is honourable in all" (Heb 13:4), and its God that creates the lifelong one-flesh covenant between all men and women that marry (Gen 2:24). Our heritage of Mennonite/Amish reflects these values almost entirely amongst the millions of us around the world. Furthermore, the same could be said among many of the Independent Baptists, though not nearly as solid marriages or marriage doctrine due to the heresy and wicked allowance of some divorce and remarriage, yet much more inline with Scripture than Charlie and Erica Kirk. Modesty, gender distinctiveness, courting prior to marriage (not dating), the wife's submission to her husband, are all things that must be addressed in marriage and more, but fall silent from the lips of people such as the Kirks.

Patriotism, Fighting Against the Wicked Woke/Left, and Islam

1. His love for America, for liberty of speech and liberty of religion, for law and order, and second amendment rights, and desire to save America, to help Donald Trump win the presidency are all very good and beneficial things, and makes life better all around by a lot (especially in comparison to how evil and destructive the left demoncratic party really is and would have been had they been able to fraudulently steal another election), and certainly more peaceful. One of the reasons Kirk was hated so much was his effectiveness. He was persistent and kept trying and it was having a good, measurable effect. Exposing and fighting against the wicked woke and left is very commendable and concerning this we are reminded of Pr 24:23-25, a good reflection of some of the wisdom of Charlie:

"These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment. He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him: But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them." (Pr 24:23-25)

His voice against the left was needed. Here is one example of a student, and why the left must be aggressively opposed at every opportunity:

“A lot of my friends that day were like, ‘Well, I feel like I’m happy that Charlie Kirk is dead, but then I also feel guilty that I feel that way.’ I think a lot of it is just he was spreading so much hate, misinformation, encouraging violence, and so I think that in this scenario, a lot of people were not necessarily happy that he died but happy that his voice was silenced” (“Happy That His Voice Was Silenced,” Washington Times, Sept 23, 2025)

This is wicked, false and dangerous brainwashed thinking, and why the left, along with Islam, are the greatest threats to every single westerner. This common thought also reflects the truth that all secular Universities and Colleges across Western nations, not only in America but also in Canada, Australia and European nations, are evil, demonic, and terrorist training institutions. To hold to traditional marriage, to a biblical view of male and female, to liberty of speech and liberty of religion, to law and order, to second amendment rights, is NOT hate but absolutely good.

2. We also felt kinship in his hatred for Islam and his wisdom in making the connection between Islam and the Left. In 2025, Kirk wrote that,

"Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America." ("Israeli leaders heap praise on Charlie Kirk as a staunch ally of Israel")

This is very true. He also wrote against the Moslem communist Islamist devil that's running for NY mayor:

"24 years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11. Now a Muslim Socialist is on pace to run New York City."

In another post, Kirk truthfully declared,

"It's not Islamophobia to notice that Muslims want to import values into the West that seek to destabilize our civilization." (Axelrod, Tal, June 26, 2025).

What he says is true. "Islamophobia" is a wicked lie and hoax, with the goal of censoring all anti-Islamic speech. The most evil ideology and religion that Satan ever invented is this savage and barbaric evil ideology of Islam, borne in the cursed land of Esau. Its greatest claim to fame is the destruction of civilizations and the savage murder of innocent "infidels," especially Jews and Christian’s, attacking innocent and defenceless women, children and men, reflecting the evil and demonic Amalekites from the days of Israel's forty year wilderness sojourn. This is Islam at its very best, “good” Moslem devils obeying the 100+ verses in the satanically inspired unholy Quran to jihad, murder, slaughter, beheading and any other depraved form of murder, which hundreds of millions continue to faithfully observe in our day (see statistics here, at least 50,000 Islamic attacks in the last 24 years alone). They get their marching orders from “Allah,” who is Satan in his purest form, hence why the unholy books of Islam command murder and war on innocent kafirs (Islamic word for dirty, filthy “infidels”) over a hundred times, raping of “infidel” women and children, stealing, lying, deceiving, oppression, anti-freedom, hatred of women (incl. the destruction of their sexual organs), pedophilia, slavery, etc.

We are thankful for Charlie's stand against this evil ideology and his connection to the anti-Moslem group ACT for America, but truthfully the only answer for the west against this awful and demonic people who will never stop until our nations are utterly destroyed is BBD: - BAN the Quran! - BULLDOZE all Mosques! - DEPORT all Moslems! Keep reading here as to why:

• TheReligionOfPeace.Com

• The Serious Problem of Islam

• Contrasting Islams god (Allah) with the God of the Bible (Jehovah) and the god of this World (Satan)

• 24 Years Ago, on 9/11, America Came to Know Islam; Today People Still Haven’t Learned The Lesson

• If Islam is a Religion of Peace, then Satan is a Peacemaker

3. Climate Control Religion and Agenda is one of the tools of the left to advance control and destroy civilization and everything good and beautiful that comes with it, and Charlie Kirk opposed this wicked garbage, and kudos to him for doing so. He opposed the 2016 Paris Agreement on climate change, and the global warming hoax and openly denied the wicked lie of climate change, truthfully stating that there is "no factual data to back up global warming." He spoke out against targeting fossil fuels and opposed student campaigns that pressured universities to divest from fossil fuels. Kirk warned that climate activism would erode American sovereignty and private property, describing it as a Trojan Horse for Marxism and likening it to "pseudo-paganism." Precisely right. The wicked lie that climate change is an existential threat was opposed by Kirk, calling it "complete gibberish nonsense," and stating that if your biggest worry in life is existential, you have a great life.

This entire gong show and one of the greatest diabolical hoaxes in the history of the world, has ZERO facts or evidence behind it, and in fact, the evil and deceptive frauds over at Wikipedia have had to alter a massive amount of data and delete that much as well in an attempt to gain some credibility on this hoax. Thankfully non-reprobate people with two brain cells between their ears don't believe the garbage, con job and scam, and all the lies associated with it. All of the players in this evil game are wicked hypocrites at an entirely new level. The globalist antichrist elites have shown us how to be a good climate activist: own a private jet; own a yacht; own 5 mansions; lecture poor people on how selfish they are; give yourself an award. This Interview by Dr. Robert Malone with Prof. William Happer, Exposes Climate Scare as Based on Lies. “There is really no threat from increasing CO2 or any of the other minor greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. It’s all a made-up scare story.” As does the Science of Climate Change journal who on March 21, 2025, published a ground-breaking study using AI (Grok-3) to debunk the man-made climate crisis narrative. Click on the link below for the paper titled: A Critical Reassessment of the Anthropogenic CO2-Global Warming Hypothesis.

Anti-LGBQT Gender Ideology and Anti-Abortion

Charlie spoke out against these issues, which really took centre stage for him. While it is very good that he opposed the gender nazis and murdering of babies, when he was explaining his disagreements with the Catholic Church, he dumped heaps of praise on them because of their position on life and gender, while sadly ignoring many of the very serious heresies in that cultish institution. We oppose these evils as well, but such opposition is not the crown jewel of Christianity. It's actually common sense opposition, which unsaved non-religious people of the world do as well, by the millions.

Nevertheless, we are thankful that Kirk did speak against sodomites, against the LGBQT+EVIL+WICKEDNESS alphabet soup, against the same characteristics noted in America today as in Scripture (Gen 18-19), and to no surprise, it was this very kind of evil reprobate that murdered Kirk, and have been murdering innocent people in mass shootings across America over the last years and throughout history, many of which have targeted children and professing Christians. This is not shocking. Sodomy is vile, unreasonable, oppressive, angry, violent, and destructive which is why they are evil murderous reprobates and the Word of God demands their execution, both OT and NT (Rom 1:28-32; 13:1-5; Lev 20:13; 1 Ki 15:12; 22:46). But America is not executing these mentally unstable evil beasts, and because of that, you have Kirk being assassinated by one of them, Tyler Robinson, who was the “lover” of a homosexual man “transitioning to a woman.” The public call for the execution of all sodomites will help bring about the change needed and God's judgment withheld. These sodomite degenerates are immoral, mentally unstable, evil reprobate beasts, ripe for the fires of hell (yes they could be saved, but the chance of that is excessively slim, as Romans 1 details). After describing their perversion and hatred for the truth and the God of truth, the Bible says,

“For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: . . . GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND, TO DO THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE NOT CONVENIENT; Being filled with ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, fornication, WICKEDNESS, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, MURDER, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, HATERS OF GOD, DESPITEFUL, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD, THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.” (Rom 1:21-32)

Kirk openly opposed the evil and demonic sexual gender ideology and transgenderism madness, stating: "the facts are that there are only two genders; that transgenderism and gender 'fluidity' are lies that hurt people and abuse kids." (The American Mind, "Sexual Anarchy" Op-Ed, Oct 14, 2021). He boldly declared that transgender men in women's locker rooms should be "taken care of the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and '60s." We couldn't agree more. Its not "violence," but justice. Godly justice that brings the blessings of God upon a nation. The same goes for Kirk's opposition to Ms. Rachel for quoting “love your neighbour” to defend celebrating pride month, quoting a Bible verse used to justify stoning gay people “to death.” Kirk called the stoning passages of Scripture, “God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” Amen to that. In 2024 Kirk called for Trump to propose a nationwide ban of gender-affirming care for transgender people, which Trump has done. That same day, April 1st, he called for the imprisonment of doctors who perform gender-affirming care and demanded "Nuremberg-style" trials for them. Again, we certainly concur. Not only the gender-affirming care physicians but also all medical staff and politicians involved in the covid plandemic and death shot.

In spite of Kirk's apparent opposition to sodomy and the reprobate alphabet soup and gender ideology (at least as reported by the left wing woke media), he had good friends that were sodomites (e.g., Dave Rubi). In a speech in 2023, Kirk quoted De 22:5, that a man wearing women's clothes or a woman wearing men's clothes, are an abomination to God. He is precisely right and kudos to his quotation of a neglected Bible passage, but it's hypocritical to use this passage while your wife is dressing transgenderly, and you have no problem with that. This is the sort of hypocrisy that lives everywhere in the neo-evangelical world, a reason why the lost blaspheme the name of God (cf. Rom 2:24). We address this sort of hypocrisy in the article, The Hypocrisy of Calvinists and Evangelicals — Example: John MacArthur over Gender Confusion.

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There is undoubtedly a lot more things we could write that is good concerning Kirk, including Biblical doctrine, but this should suffice. This is us giving credit where credit is due, and again we are sure we could find other things to add. Nevertheless, more than this we will not do, for to so would be giving the wrong impression of what Charlie Kirk and TPUSA represented. The church of Laodicea in Rev 3:14-20, had not one good thing said about it, and for good reason, but not because there couldn't have been good things stated about it. Without a doubt, they did things that would've been highly esteemed amongst evangelical men today. But they were unregenerate, worldly, and ungodly, while professing to be Christian. Neo-evangelical charismatic ecumenical deeply compromised people like Charlie Kirk and TPUSA are actually as bad or worse than the church at Laodicea. Lets consider for a moment why God despises this lukewarm church, which is an unsaved church, and why He will spew them out of His mouth and into the fires of hell:

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see." (Rev 3:14-18)

And that is a perfect description of neo-evangelicalism and most of Christendom today. Worldly to the core, heretical, ecumenical, and mostly apostate, while professing to be Christian.

Biblically Dangerous and Destructive

In many ways, the Christianity that is associated with TPUSA is more dangerous spiritually than almost anything in this world. It is good for politics but bad for Christianity. But isn't any witness for Christ of some value? No, not necessarily. If the truth is preached, we rejoice, but more often than not, the truth was not preached but compromised or denied, and that continues on as bad or worse. But regardless whether some truth is preached or not, this is a moot point in the face of massive amounts of serious error and massive compromise and heresies that are being tolerated and all the wicked ecumenicalism, which on its own is all the proof needed. In no place of scripture is error ignored or undermined because some truth is being preached. The very opposite in fact occurs, where compromising men are exposed, and Paul the Apostle's example is naming the names of ten such men in the epistles of 1 and 2 Timothy alone.

Many professing Christians are claiming that people will get saved through Charlies death. We do not believe this to be true. We believe many that make this call are unregenerate themselves, and do not actually understand the new birth, or the true gospel. We also believe that majority of people that do come to a Point of Turning will be convinced of the horribleness of the leftism / wokeness evil reprobatism disease, and will turn away from that to the right of the political spectrum, which has good manifestations for the country, and the result pursued by TPUSA, but this will not in most cases invoke a right Biblical response to fear of the Lord and necessity to repent out of what has occurred, both of which are the critical foundations of salvation. Why not? Because it is the temporal that is being pursued, the nation, save America and our culture, while the true spiritual and eternal things are neglected. Obedience to God's Word isn't even on the charts.

TPUSA's Shallow, Watered Down and Corrupted Gospel, Including That Which Was Preached at Charlie's Memorial

Two examples among many that could be given.

1. At Charlie's memorial service on Sept 21, 2025, a man that referred to himself as "Charlie's pastor," Rob McCoy, presented a massage with an invitation to salvation, but it wasn't the true gospel, but "another gospel" (Gal 1:6-9; 2 Cor 11:4), a false gospel of easy believism and quick prayerism. This is what Charlies pastor at TPUSA believed, and consequently Charlie.

What McCoy preached is the version of salvation that TPUSA believes and wants people to believe. We didn't need to sit down to absorb some kind of shock, but we would've had to had he and they preached the true gospel at the memorial. Here is some of what he said:

"He's the King of glory, the Prince of Peace, the Saviour of the world, He's the living God, the God of all mercy and grace, the total embodiment of love, the total embodiment of truth and He's here today to call His children back to Him He’s the guest of honour in this place, and He’s here today to call His children back to Him. Charlie knew that at an early age; he entrusted his life to the Saviour of the World. Jesus came to this earth, was tempted in all ways, yet was without sin. He was crucified upon the cross—His blood poured out because blood must be shed for the remission of sins. He died in our place, the perfect substitute for guilty sinners like you and me, taking the punishment we deserved so we could go free. But death couldn’t hold Him! On the third day, He rose victorious, alive forevermore, conquering sin and the grave for all who believe. That’s the power of the resurrection—eternal life for anyone who repents of their sin and trusts in Him alone. No works, no merits, just faith in the finished work of Christ."

This travesty is a false gospel of easy believism and quick prayerism and its loaded with error, lies, and damnable heresies. First of all, God does not "call His children back to Him," because we are not "His children" before we're born again. We are the "children of disobedience" in contrast to the "children of God" who become His children through the new birth alone (Eph 2:1-10). Secondly, it's not even so much what is mentioned, but rather what is not mentioned, which is what heretics, neo-evangelicals, and most of Christendom, specialize in, and makes them so dangerous. They fall far too short in their explanation to give a salvation invitation afterward. The application of their sermons, which is vital, even further twists and perverts the gospel. This is what he said when it came to the reception of the gospel message:

"The Lord loves you. He wants to save you. He wants to give you a new life. He wants to cover the multitude of your sins by the blood he shed upon the cross. The Bible says if you believe in your heart and you confess with your tongue Jesus is Lord, you will be saved to the glory of the father. You see, Charlie looked at politics as an on-ramp to Jesus. He knew if he could get all of you rowing in the streams of liberty, you’d come to its source, and that’s the Lord."

"In the time I have remaining, I’m going to ask all who profess Christ as their savior to remain seated.  The Bible says, “If you profess me before man, I’ll profess you before my father in heaven.” It requires an act of faith. You stand. That’s what Charlie did every day on campus with death threats. He stood because he knew in whom he had trusted and he wants to give you the gift of the why and what he did and that is his saviour Jesus. While believers are seated, if there’s any in this room and across the globe that would desire to receive Jesus as his saviour, as Charlie did as a young man, and now is in the presence of his saviour, I’m going to ask you to put action to your faith. And I’d ask you to stand right now to receive the Lord. Don’t be ashamed.  Stand. Amen. Amen. Amen. The Bible says, the Bible says that when one sinner gives their heart to the Lord, the angels in heaven rejoice. And I got to tell you, there’s one up there right now, Charlie Kirk. He’s stoked and he’s excited about your commitment to his savior."

While McCoy was given his false "salvation" invitation, the easy going, emotion-appealing elevator music was playing in the background, manipulating the masses even more. Adding to the emotional manipulation was the repeated mention of "Charlie Kirks" name, further reflecting the massive man-centredness of this new false religion. Though McCoy didn't go to the quick prayer language of '1-2-3 pray with me'--he said "stand"--the motive of the methodology remains the same.

McCoy attempts to correlate "profess me before man, I’ll profess you before my father in heaven" with the action of "standing," the sinner apparently demonstrating his profession of Jesus before men by standing. So the act of standing is in essence saying "you confess Jesus" which then correlates to being saved, since the Apostle Paul stated, confess Jesus as Lord and you’re saved. That is certainly not what Paul meant! Neither the Lord Jesus nor the Apostles ever dealt with anyone like this anywhere in the entire cannon of scripture. After he finished with his false gospel of easy believism and quick prayerism, he provided a QR code on the big screen so those who "stood" and got "saved" could talk to counsellors to help them now with their Christian living, how to conform into the mould. 100% man-centred from start to finish, a hideous and most deceptive perversion of the gospel, which from hereon we should refer to as, "The Man-Centred Gospel of Lasciviousness," after Ju 1:4

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." (Ju 1:4)

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God." (Lk 16:15)

McCoy then goes on to give a false assurance of salvation to whosoever "stood" and thus was not ashamed of Jesus. I would venture to say that nobody was actually saved that "stood." They weren't actually confessing Jesus Christ as Lord from a truly repentant and surrendered heart to Jesus Christ as Lord, because they do not know what repentance is, or their awful sinful and wicked nature before God, or their eternal condemnation to hell, or why they actually even need to be saved, or who Jesus is. There is not even close enough gospel for someone to get saved. Very few in that audience likely had a clue about these things, and probably none that stood. Their "standing" was a false, emotional and fleshly charade to the event before them, their offence and grief towards the unjust assassination of Charlie Kirk, and now seeking to identify with him in any shape or form, and NOT the true Lord Jesus Christ from the Bible, while willingly having the wool pulled before their eyes, and marched down the broad path to destruction and damnation.

What is absolutely wicked and disgusting and blowing wide open the gates of hell is the false assurance of "salvation" given by this wolf in sheep's clothing to literally thousands of people whose souls were irresponsibly dealt with in a twisted and wicked way, making them twice the children of Hell they once were, literally fulfilling Matt 23:15. Heaven does not rejoice at false professions, nor at these wicked wolves who are leading the goats to the slaughter. No heavenly rejoicing, but certainly heavenly wrath from God. Not only are these "standers" not saved, nor is their venerable leader Rob McCoy, and practically everybody else, if not everybody, within the heretical Calvary Chapel denomination, who think they are saved and yet do not even understand the gospel (which is true essentially of all of evangelicalism today, including the evangelical Mennonite denominations of EMC and EBMC who are yoked together in ecumenical "unity," along with other heretical similar groups, who retain very, very few true converts). And how does this wolf in sheep's clothing know whether Charlie is in heaven or not? Considering this point alone, reflecting Charlie's affection towards false teachers and cults, and seeing that this wolf was his "pastor," there is no indication whatsoever that Charlie is in heaven today. We address this subject in our last point of this report.

True preachers of the gospel desire for souls to be saved, but they won't promote pragmatic approach that seeks mere professions from either easy believing, praying a prayer, or in this case, merely standing up. That is the MO of false teachers. The method utilized at the Memorial (and chronically in his "ministry") along with the belly-serving flattery deceiving the hearts of the simple (Rom 16:18), exposes that the man is no true preacher of the gospel at all but a manipulative wolf in sheep's clothing pursuing after a following (2 Pet 2:1-3; Rom 16:18), which is why they use the music that they do, the music of the world, to further manipulate the emotions of the simple and the foolish (Rom 16:18). The preaching in the world of Calvary Chapel has been relegated into an "experience" with the Holy Spirit, when it's not the Holy Spirit, or holy at all. It's simply concocted from the ecstasy built upon the Charismatic feelings they start having when the CCM rocks the house. The "Jesus" that men like McCoy present is not the true Jesus of the Bible and Heaven, and what was presented in his "evangelism" here reflects neo-evangelicalism in general and "another gospel" (2 Cor 11:4).

This is what people are being exposed to now, not the true and pure gospel but a placebo. But that is merely one of many errors that this pastor of Calvary Chapel stands behind.

2. TPUSA preaches only some, non-controversial elements of the true gospel (for instance: they preach Christ died for us, He was our Substitute, was crucified, buried for three days and then arose to ascend to heaven where He sits on His throne, but neglect other important elements of the gospel), and in scripted fashion, either present a superficial finish line, or no finish line at all, while leaving out some pretty important aspects of the gospel. Like what? Sin, hell, repentance, how to actually be saved, shedding of Christ's blood, His office as judge and executioner, eternal hell fire, true Biblical repentance, Christ's Lordship, etc. A good example is Frank Turek preaching at Charlies memorial service (Turek was a mentor to Charlie), where he mentions some important elements of the gospel, but misses some of the most important parts, which without you cannot be saved. Of course there is a reason for that -- those missing parts are by far the most controversial points of the gospel. So they claim that they are gathered around one subject: the gospel, but that is a blatant lie; they aren’t even gathered around that. And if they actually were, then they would be gathered around the whole counsel of God, and subsequently separated from Catholics, Mormons, Neo-Evangelicals, and other heretical groups and people.

The YouTuber Spencer Smith claimed what "Dr. Frank Turek" presented as the gospel was sufficient for someone to get genuinely saved, “that speech right there will result in people getting saved.” (Source). He said this definitively with no cause for doubt, while scripture presents something different. It wasn't sufficient to save, as we have detailed above. As much as we appreciated some of things Smith presented in his series on Charlie Kirk, this is not right. But it's not unsurprising from Smith who promotes a similarly corrupted gospel of easy believism, exposed here: Beware of Spencer Smith.

Turek is a prototypical neo-evangelicals heretic, claiming Christ while married to the world; claiming Biblical Christianity while corrupting the Word of God and the Gospel. How bad is Turek? How bad really is a man who blasphemously likens Harry Potter to the Lord Jesus Christ (""Harry Potter is the best archetype of Jesus Christ" -- Deal With It: Harry Potter is the Best Archetype of Jesus Christ). Just. Wow. In that same video, Turek speaks highly of another ungodly and worldly movie, Lord of the Rings, and even of Catholicism ("Tolken was a very devout Catholic as you know"). He said that in a very approving manner. Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter are evil, witchcraft and the very epitome of worldliness, and the habitual and natural disobedience of the neo-evangelical fits right into this betrayal of God and His truth. He goes on in his comparison between Harry Potter and Jesus Christ stating that "Harry had to act morally to save the universe, which is the same thing Jesus needs to do." This is absurd and wicked, true of any comparison made between the Triune Holy God of Heaven and Earth with earthly things, never mind comparing Him to an evil identity. Nevertheless, this is unsurprising coming from a neo-evangelical heretic who hides behind a counterfeit label. For heretics the Word of God is never enough, they must look at secular worldly sources for the archetypal Christ.

Frank Turek, like Rob McCoy, is a wolf in sheep's clothing, hence the compromised and perverted gospel of zero finish line, zero repentance, zero sin, no true biblical justice.

When we think of what Charlie and TPUSA believes concerning the gospel/salvation, this is what we should think, because it is what he agreed with (Am 3:3), and sat under and had no issue with, which is why it was preached at his memorial. Both McCoy and Turek weren't saying or preaching anything unusual or different than normal, Kirk walked with them alongside their beliefs (Am 3:3). This is the message Charlie would have wanted the listeners to hear, but it's a message that doesn't genuinely save.

Charlies Pastor, Roy McCoy of Calvary Chapel, is Doctrinally Unsound and Preaches a False Gospel

As noted, Rob McCoy was considered "Charlie's Pastor." Rob McCoy is Calvary Chapel, which speaks absolute volumnes. Calvary Chapel is a charismatic-type professing Christian denomination that are infamous for the Jesus Movement (from whence it started in the late 1960's) and some of its preachers such as Chuck Smith, Lonnie Frisbee, Chuck Missler, Jack Hibbs, Greg Laurie, and now Charlie Kirk. The Jesus People movement was largely birthed through Calvary Chapel, by Lonnie Frisbee, who turned to “Jesus” through LSD trips and began to receive “prophecies” while high on drugs. On his own authority the teenage Frisbee baptized a group of drugged up hippies at Tahquitz Falls after reading the Gospel of John to them and painting a picture of “Jesus” on the rocks. Later, in the same place while on an acid trip, he had a “vision” that God had called him to preach the gospel to multitudes. Mesmerized by this charismatic drugged up Jesus hippie, Chuck Smith would baptize massive numbers of Jesus People hippies who had professed Christ, many of them “led to the Lord” by Frisbee while on drugs. By accepting the young people pretty much as they were even for Christian service—-men with long hair, immodest clothing, rock and roll music, culturally-liberal thinking and unregenerate—Calvary Chapel exploded in growth from one small church to a mega-church and beyond that to a large association of churches. Frisbee was “commissioned” by Chuck Smith Sr., after Smith’s wife, Kay, received a “prophecy,” in spite of Frisbee not only using hallucinogenic drugs but still living a homosexual lifestyle, practicing hypnotism, and dabbling in various occultic and mystical practices (“The Son Worshipers,” video documentary edited by Bob Cording and Weldon Hardenbrook). Frisbee never had a clear new birth conversion that involved a definite understanding of the gospel and clear repentance and faith conversion, which type of ungodly practice continues to this day at Calvary Chapel, including what McCoy presented at Charlie's Memorial. Frisbee never gave up homosexuality and partying. Even after he joined Calvary Chapel he would “party on Saturday night” and “preach on Sunday.” Apparently Frisbee’s "ministry" was accompanied by “signs and wonders” but the devil can do miracles, and when measured by the standard of Scripture, Frisbee’s "ministry" was dangerously heretical and guided by the angel of light called Satan (2 Cor 11:12-15). In spite of all this evil and unfruitful works of darkness and clear unregeneracy, Smith put Frisbee in charge of a Wednesday night Bible study, which soon attracted thousands (Randall Balmer, The Encyclopedia of Evangelism). Thus Calvary Chapel started with a false, impostor revival, the Jesus Movement, which wasn't the Jesus of the Bible but a Jesus of their own imagination, nor the gospel of the Bible, presenting "another gospel" and "another Jesus" (2 Cor 11:4), led by ungodly and unregenerate hypocritical imposters, and to this day this persists, continuing to accept the flimsiest of “professions,” never careful in ascertaining whether the professor is indeed truly born again. What they present on a regular basis is a popular contemporary presentation not in line with actual exegesis of scripture. Their sermons are not expository. Sometimes they go verse by verse, but they are not finding the point of the text and preaching the text then in its context and with proper application, which is what expository preaching will do.

Calvary Chapel has obviously always been thoroughly Charismatic and entrenched with Keswick/Second-Blessing Theology and corrupted sanctification, and heretical yoking of the world with Christianity, another fruit of that ungodly Keswick movement that started in the 19th century and exposed here: A Warning on Keswick Theology and Why It‘s So Dangerous, in a Nutshell. It is revivalistic. It is mystical. They embrace heretical views on the baptism of the Spirit and on worship, which is sensual and alluring to the flesh and found absolutely everywhere in evangelicalism (and at Charlie Kirks memorial). Its adherents confuse their feelings with the Holy Spirit, and next to none of them understand the true gospel, yet they claim to be "saved" and "holy." They are neither, yet this is normal behaviour in the world of Calvary Chapel and again, evangelicalism at large.

The soteriology of Calvary Chapel is easy believism and quick prayerism and a rejection of the true gospel of repentant faith and surrender to Christ's Lordship. They don't preach repentance, or when they do use the word out of necessity (coming across the term in passages), they corrupt it. It is overtly positive to a fault, going out of the way so that people won’t feel guilty, noted throughout Charlie's memorial. It is cheap grace, and worse, lascivious grace, "ungodly men turning the grace of God into lasciviousness" (Ju 1:4). Their method of Bible interpretation is very often allegorical, especially in the OT (which is very common with false teachers, exposed in this article), seeing things in passages that are not there, adding to the Word of God.

Charlies Church, Dream City Church, is Extremely Heretical, Worldly, and Wrong

Dream City Church out of Phoenix, AZ, is pastored by Luke Barnett and his wife Angel, which is wicked rebellion since a woman cannot teach or lead men (1 Tim 2:12-19). Right off the bat we see the heretical foundation of this "church." Dream City Church is a typical neo-evangelical / emergent rock and roll congregation, that belongs to the Assemblies of God denomination, a heretical Pentecostal-Charismatic group that believes a born again child of God can lose their salvation, that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is an experience to be sought subsequent to salvation and is evidenced by tongues speaking, and physical healing is promised because of Christ’s atonement. This charismatic "church" takes a continuationist position on the sign gifts, including the gift of tongues. They also practice false Charismatic worship. Losing salvation is a false gospel preached by false teachers. A second "baptism" of the Holy Spirit is unscriptural to the core and is the byproduct of heretical and egregious Keswick/Revivalist theology. The hocus-pocus gibberish they call  "speaking in tongues" and claim to be alleged evidence of some second "baptism," is serious heresy. The false worship indicates they know not God, for only true born again believer worship Him in spirit and in truth (Jn 4:23-24).

This "church," like all of its ten branches, is a business. Their measure of success is not faithfulness and obedience to Scripture at all costs, but 100% measured by the world's standards. It is even so stated on their church website. Thus it is not even a NT church as we see in Gods Word (at best, it would be Laodicean, that profane church that God spews out of His mouth—Rev 3:14-18). Thats what it really is, under the guise of Christianity. I don't know how any actual true born again believer would or could be comfortable in this environment. This would deny the working and ministry of the Holy Spirit that indwells all true believers (Rom 8:14-16).

Kirk would even host high-profile political rallies at this church. The church has hosted Trump rallies in both 2020 and 2024. Is this a church or a political machine? I have no issue with supporting Trump—in many ways we support him as well and vote for him, even arguing why Christian’s Should Vote for Trump, but this is bringing the sacrilegious into that which is supposed to be sacred. For a lot less, Christ made a whip and whipped money changers out of the temple, overthrowing their tables. Yes, the Lamb of God actually did that, twice, to all who might be confined to snowflake-syndrome (see Jn 2 for instance).

Keep reading here on why Charismaticism/ Pentecostalism is Unscriptural and Heretical — Flee from These Wolves.

The fact that Charlie attended Pentecostal/Charismatic, Neo-Evangelical "Churches" reflects his true views on Christianity and his support of the end-times one-world "church," whether wittingly or unwittingly. All of the major elements of the end-time “church” were present in Charlie Kirk and TPUSA’s world: a watered-down and compromised shallow gospel with a focus on easy believism and a “sinner’s prayer,” unconcern or even denial of a regenerated conversion experience with clear biblical evidence, downplaying and redefining repentance, a judge not philosophy, lack of zeal for sound doctrine, neglect of contending for the faith, rejection of biblical warnings, joining hands with Roman Catholics and Mormons and other cults ecumenically, contemporary false worship music, charismaticism with its emphasis on experience and emotions, acceptance of Pentecostal heresies such as gibberish tongues and “prophecies,” a plethora of Bible perversions with the resultant weakening of biblical authority and rejection of absolute truth, unconcern for biblical modesty and gender distinctive dressing, a capitulation to worldliness in general, and an emphasis on entertainment. This end-times neo-evangelicalism degenerate estate results in embracing the heresy of “cultural liberalism.” They deceptively believe that the grace of Christ liberates the believer to relax and enjoy the worldly pop culture of rock and roll, R-rated movies, sensual music and video games, pro sports and all of its sin and filth, pop fashion, tattooing, drinking, perhaps even marijuana.

I am not sure how this works in the world of neo-evangelicalism, but how can you have you two pastors from two different churches (Rob McCoy and Luke Barnett), or maybe even three if he was also regularly attending a Catholic church? This further reflects Charlie Kirks corruption of Biblical doctrine, in this case ecclesiology at a most basic level.

Charlie's Approval of False Worship

False worship using contemporary "Christian" music (CCM) and other worldly and charismatic strange fire music, was the standard and rule in Charlie's life, not the exception. His favourite music artist was Kanye West, which is ungodly and worldly music, played by a depraved musician. We don't need to give specific examples, for they are everywhere present in anything do with church or worship in Charlies circles. Everywhere Charlie attended, whether evangelical "churches," charismatic "churches" or Catholic "churches," this was the music that flooded these environments. Both of Charlie's pastors (Luke Barnett and Rob McCoy) fully embrace false, worldly, fleshly worship music in their "churches" (they are not a true church that lines up with God's Word, but a business that crossbreeds the culture of the ungodly world and Christianity), which is golden calf and strange fire worship.

All of this was on display at Kirk's memorial service on September 21st, which featured ungodly and worldly Christian rock music, performed by false belly-serving worshippers such as Kari Jobe, Brandon Lake, Phil Wickham and Chris Tomlin, which is music that is unBiblical, carnal, ecumenical, charismatic, mystical, sensual, immodest, and completely of the world. This ear-bleeding, sensual, effeminate and girly music went on for an unbelievable two and a half hours, surely making the heads spin and ears bleed of anyone that was genuinely converted in that audience! One of the songs, “The Blessing,” consisted almost entirely of the word “amen,” which was sung repeatedly for minutes on end, almost in a type of hypnotic trance. CCM is frequently referred to as “7/11 music” (7 words sung 11x), but this was 1 word sung 35 x! If this is not “vain repetition” (Matt 6:7), we're not quite sure what would be. This empty-minded, hypnotic type of "worship" is very, very typical in these charismatic neo-evangelical churches and environment that Kirk associated with, producing the emotional, fleshly experience sought by charismatic worshipers.

This music was the music of choice at Charlie's memorial, because that is the music that dominated Charlie's life. It was merely a continuation of the standard.

The ungodly influence of this memorial service unto further ungodliness (not only the false and worldly worship, but also the false gospel that was preached, and the ecumenicalism-yoking of the [alleged] sacred and sacrilegious), cannot be overstated, considering the sobering fact that 100,000+ people were in attendance, and apparently >100 million streams in the first 24 hours of the service. What occurs in these situations, as it does daily in almost all the hundreds of thousands of churches across the nation, is unsaved false "believers" continuing on their deceptive and unregenerate nature, and non-religious unsaved folks attracted to it because it is the world’s music and the lyrics don’t deal with “negative” sound Bible truths such as true conversion, hell, sin, repentance, judgment, testing, discernment, contending for the faith, or separation. Thus, it is a whorish means for embracement of spiritual adultery, and the end result is complete leavening of the lump and rampant apostasy. And this is exactly what we see in the arena of Christendom today.

The contemporary music of heretical neo-evangelicals greatly dishonours and disobeys God, which is sin, because of what it illustrates or produces: fleshly lusts (1 Pet 2:11), worldly lusts (Ti 2:12), conformity to this world (Rom 12:2), provision to the flesh (Rom 13:14), profanes the Name of God (Lev 18:21), fashions according to former lusts (1 Pet 1:14), ecstasy (1 Cor 12:1-3), sensuality (Jam 3:15) and Satanic behaviour (Mk 8:33; Jam 3:15; 1 Pet 5:8). Not only does this music demonstrate these unscriptural and ungodly attributes, it also greatly dishonours and disobeys God in what it doesn't produce and demonstrate, which includes showing God reverence (Lev. 19:30, many others), true spirituality (Jn. 4:23-24), beauty and loveliness (Phil. 4:8 — the opposite is unlovely or ugliness), holiness (Rom. 12:1), gender distinctiveness (1 Cor. 6:9), godliness (Ti 2:11-14; 1 Tim 6:11), solemnity (Lev. 23:36, many others) — the opposite of solemn and reverent is superficial, foolish, thoughtless, vapid, flippant, trivial, and more, precise overall descriptions of contemporary "worship" music. This is most evident in the entertainment industry and neo-evangelical institutions, but the members of even the staunchest Bible-believing churches are in love with the pop culture and blink, even smile, at its filth and blasphemy, which reflects the unregeneracy of majority of church members and attenders, all of which is caused by a false gospel that accepts false "Christians" as true Christians, the foundation being completely corrupt.

More on this important subject can be viewed here:

• Contemporary Christian Music (CCM), Is It Honouring to God?

• Christian Contemporary Music (CCM), the Soundtrack of End-Times Apostasy

• Judging Music: Judging “Christian” Contemporary Music (CCM) to be Strange Fire and Unfruitful Works of Darkness

• The Incongruity of Contemporary Worship Music (CCM) and Country Music (High Valley) with God's Word

Charlie’s Heretical Ecumenicalism with Mormonism

Kirk’s association with Mormonism is terrible and horrendously ecumenical. He obviously did not understand Mormonism all that well, or he simply ignored the serious errors and damnable dangers that exist in this cult, for the bigger purpose of "uniting" America against the left. In the day he was murdered, Charlie spoke highly of Mormonism, proudly stating that Mormons worked for TPUSA.

Because of Kirks positive proclamation of Mormonism, and refusal to speak out against it, Mormons like Glen Beck would equate Kirk's martyrdom with Joseph Smith as the two martyrs of American Christianity (on American soil he says). American martyrs. Wow. We will address whether Kirk was a true martyr indeed in the last section of this report, but what about Jospeh Smith? A little history lesson is in store. Joseph Smith, the founder of the cult of Mormonism was a total degenerate and ungodly sexual pervert, fornicator, and adulterer, which led to his death. He was an extremely wicked man, a pedophile, degenerate vile pervert who would force his loyal followers to share their wives and their daughters.

To understand how bad the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) really is, see our report: Exposing the Cult and False Religion of Mormonism. In the mean time, below is a short list of some of the “attributes” of the Mormon Jesus and official dogmas of the Mormon Church (LDS):

• The Mormon “God” is a man (he has a physical body, testified by Joseph Smith, who allegedly saw him -- ah, no he didn't) who as a sinner was redeemed by another “Jesus” on another planet and who has a hierarchy of “gods” (also exalted men) over him.

• "Jesus Christ" was not always God but earned his way to godhood just as Mormons will become gods someday.

• The work of the Mormon "Jesus" was insufficient for man’s salvation, and to complete salvation one has to believe in the false prophet Joseph Smith that he came from God to restore the church (i.e., Smith takes a role in a persons salvation).

• "Jesus Christ" is the spirit brother of Lucifer (of whom we are all half-brothers and sisters) and is not God from all eternity but came to this earth to get a body in order to become a “God.” That body was formed when the Mormon “god” came to earth and with his physical body and had sexual intercourse with Mary.

• "Jesus Christ" is a spirit child conceived through physical means between an exalted man (the Mormon god) and the virgin Mary.

• "Jesus Christ" is not eternal and had a beginning (i.e., not part of the eternal Trinity).

• The Mormon "Jesus" is a polygamist. The Mormon "Apostles" Orson Pratt and Orson Hyde taught that "Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children” (Journal of Discourses, 2:210). As did the polygamists fourth Mormon President/Prophet Wilford Woodruff and tenth President/Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith. This also fits Mormon dogma, since an unmarried and childless Jesus would disqualify him from the pathway to becoming a god. The Chosen producers find it a "laughable assertion" that "the beliefs some of the producers supposedly have about Jesus having multiple wives. Patently false." I would doubt that this Mormon doctrine of Jesus' polygamy would be considered by the committed Mormon producers a "laughable assertion."

• Mormon doctrine, Joseph Smiths restored "gospel," is a very busy time of the gospel of works. They teach that without our own righteousness, there is no forgiveness of sins (contrary to the entire Bible and the gospel, especially Rom 4:1-8 and more). This is what the 3rd Article of Faith of the LDS Church says: "We believe that through the atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the law, and ordinances of the gospel." In the book of Nephi 25:23, we read further instructions on this: "...for we know that is by grace that we are saved after all we can do." To be a true believer, you also have to be baptized and confirmed in the LDS church. Mormon elders then confer the Holy Ghost upon the new "believer" in the power of the Melchizedek priesthood. Then you have to tithe, always and faithfully, never neglecting it even once, and always wear temple garments underneath black t-shirts, and learn secret handshakes and passwords that will one day take you through the veil and into celestial glory where you can become a god. This is the false gospel (Gal 1:8-9) and "damnable heresies" (2 Pet 2:1) of the Mormon church.

• Eternal life to the Mormon is exaltation to godhood, and, being far from being the gift of God’s grace, takes much effort and eons of time to achieve—an ambition supposedly shared by every true Mormon male.

• Mormons believe that a baby is born without a sin nature, which is heretical and contrary to Scripture (e.g. Rom 5). Further, they claim that a child becomes accountable before God when they reach the age of eight. Where does the Bible teach that?! Nowhere is about right. As normal as breathing air, Mormons have done a massive amount of adding to God's Word.

• Mormon women can only hope to become goddesses consigned to eternal pregnancy as they give birth to spirit beings who will eventually people another planet with another Adam and Eve, a fall into sin, and another “Jesus.” It is a process that has been going on forever and will continue ad infinitum, ad absurdum.

• The process of becoming a member of the LDS church and then retaining that membership is completely works based, idolatrous and blasphemous. A large component of retaining membership is tithing. The false Mormon god requires money and lots of it, and without your continual faithful tithing dues paid, you cannot ever enter into the third heaven, the celestial heaven, the highest heaven where God allegedly resides according to LDS dogma. Thus, the Jesus-flavoured Mormon church is a multi-billion dollar organization. Mormon dogma is based on tithing works, but the Bible doesn't warn in vain that we become like the false gods and idols that we worship: "They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them." (Ps 115:8). Hence the incredible greed amongst the Mormon people, because they serve the god of mammon. Watch here for the trail of Mormon money in The Chosen, an ungodly, unBiblical and blasphemous Mormon production.

• The LDS is bought out to hierarchical dogmatism and ungodly authoritarianism comparable to that of Roman Catholicism. The “Ward Teachers’ Message” for June 1945 made the following frightful statement: “When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan, it is God’s plan. . . . When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy. God works in no other way.”

Yet in spite of this evil and heresy and apostate works of darkness, Kirk and TPUSA closely associates with Mormons and their dogma. In fact on the very day that Charlie was murdered, he proudly boasted that they had a number of Mormons on their staff.

Mormons are not true Bible-based Christians. Anyone that treats a Mormon like he is a Christian, is very biblically ignorant and spiritually naive at a very frightful level--the level of degenerate. In other words, lost, since all true born again believers have spiritual discernment and the ability to judge righteously (1 Cor 2:14-16; Jn 7:24). The Bible warns of false christs and false gospels (2 Cor 11:4) and there are many, including within Mormonism, but the Bible also says that the truly saved, the elect, cannot be deceived and are able to spiritually discern these matters, testing the spirits between truth and error (1 Jn 4:1-6) . False teachers use the same language as sound Bible teachers but they have a different dictionary and a different motive. Jesus warned of many who would call Him Lord and even do many wonderful works but they are far from being saved (Matt 7:21-23).

Charlie’s Heretical Ecumenicalism with Catholicism and Refusal to Biblically Condemn this Pagan, Antichrist, False Religion that Has Led to Billions Burning in Eternal Hell Fire

Nothing more plainly evidences the spiritual adultery, apostasy and bankruptcy of neo-evangelicalism than its associations and flirtations with Rome, and their heretical belief that Catholics are Christians, which Charlie also believed. No true born again Christian believes that a Catholic is saved!

Charlie openly admitted that he and TPUSA are ecumenical. Not just ecumenical, but “very ecumenical” (Charlie Kirk Show). On this same episode of his show, he exclaimed his views on Catholicism, and position on ecumenicalism stated matter of factly:

“Here on the Charlie Kirk show we are also very ecumenical. I want to say again, Catholics are just fabulous. They fight for life, they fight for marriage, they fight against transgenderism. I have three major theological disagreements with Catholicism, it’s not a mystery I talk about it publicly: First, the infallibility of the pope, and the whole process and the idea of the Vatican. Second, Mariology. And Third, less important, is transubstantiation, I do not hold that view.”

Being anti-transubstantiation is “less important”?!? This is stated all so casually, one gets the idea that when push comes to shove, he would tolerate it. And in reality he in fact did tolerate it. He called Roman Catholicism "fabulous." But what is very problematic is what's all missing from his list, buttressing our position that Kirk was very likely an unregenerate man, and possibly worse, a false teacher. What about the extremely heretical and damnable false gospel of Rome, which is polar opposites of the true gospel of God's Word?

We see Charlie did speak out against certain Catholic heresies, very specific ones and only a few, but once again in true neo-evangelical fashion, picking and choosing what he opposes and what he ignores, neglecting massive amounts of heresy. This is one of the reasons why neo-evangelicalism is so heretical and utterly dangerous. You never actually get the real, sound truth, only tidbits and a lot of compromise and beating around the bush. Kirk stated in this podcast he was against certain things in Catholicism, such as the Mariolatry arguing that none is sinless (which is right), but to avoid alienation from that voter base (and bearing in mind his wife is Catholic), he bulwarked that statement with declaring he had many friends that are Catholics and then heaped praise on all the supposed good things Catholics are doing for the world (which isn’t true at all, some certainly do good things but many do evil things around the world, and in general you can look at a nation like Mexico and see what Catholicism really does and how utterly wicked its fruit is, but that is neither here or there -- the massive issue and elephant in the world is that Catholicism is utterly heretical, blasphemous and corrupt right through, and that makes it bad for the world). Concerning mariolatry and her sinlessness though Charlie says he disagree with it, he also adds,

“This is not a major issue for me as getting along with Catholics, me loving Catholics, but I personally I would not be able to enter into a faith that believes that anybody except Jesus Christ our Lord is without sin and that’s my final comment on Mariology, happy to debate it with others if that chance ever surfaces.”

We love the Catholics too, but we don't associate or fellowship with them and rather warn against their heresies and apostasies. But what Charlie is declaring as “love” is not biblical love. True biblical love is undivorced from the truth. Godly love “rejoiceth in the truth;” (1 Cor 13:6) -- so biblical love speaks the truth, which is a litmus test of love. Charlie didn’t speak the truth but coddled people embracing a false gospel as being alright, even “fabulous.”

Even though Catholicism is riddled with heresies and damnable heresies, so many that it would take an volume of encyclopedias to describe them all (and many have done that, and we ourselves have exposed their major false doctrines and gospel in this report: Roman Catholicism vs Biblical Christianity) -- he is selective in his dissent and gives no actual warning but rather praise. Very, very dangerous and unbiblical.

The compromise and heretical toleration of evil and heresy and damnable heresies and false teachers and false religion is absolutely sick. It is perverse, spiritual adultery, which means he and TPUSA are the enemies of God (Jam 4:4), and this passage in James is clearly indicating that spiritual adulterers and thus enemies of God, are unregenerate, lost, unsaved, crystal clear.

Though Kirk was critical of the Pope at times (for instance exposing the Popes wicked hypocrisy in saying walls are unChristian--which they aren't!--while claiming murder of unborn babies is not unChristian!), but he didn't criticize the Pope and Catholicism in the very areas that are absolutely critical, life-altering and demanded for those that are genuinely regenerate.

And then there was Kirk's own hypocrisy, in speaking against the Pope (the bit that he did) while praising the Catholic Church, and even marrying a Catholic!

Besides the problematic use of the new age term "Golden Age of Christianity," irregardless of what the Pope defends, which wouldn't be much, no one that has any profession of salvation would become his biggest fan. What Kirk was saying, if the Pope started defending the faith, defending the West, defending biology and eternal truths, then he--Kirk--would become his biggest fan. What kind of change would be rquired for this to occur, according to Kirk? We are unsure as he never answered that question. What about all the other truck loads of heresies in Catholic dogma? What about the blasphemous titles of "Pope" and "Vicar of Christ"? Either Jesus Christ is the head of the church (cf. Eph 5:23, Col 1:18, 1 Cor 12) or the Pope is. Either the pope is the "Holy Father" OR God is (Jn 17:11). If you're a true born again Christian, your authority is the Triune God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). If it's anyone else then you're lost according to the NT. And how far, or to what degree, would the Pope have to "defend the faith" or "eternal truths"? Would it be sufficient to believe in the false gospel of Mormons, or the gospel of Rob McCoy and Calvary Chapel, or even just the same false gospel that Catholicism already embraces, since Kirk never spoke out against their false gospel?

Rome has never changed! NEVER, except it got worse. The Vatican II council that took place in the 1960.s did bring some changes to the RCC, but it did not change its foundational dogmas. Not only did Vatican II uphold RCC's false teachings, it actually strengthened them. The 2,400+ bishops attending Vatican II reaffirmed such Catholic heresies as salvation through the sacraments, papal supremacy, the Roman priesthood, the mass as a re-sacrifice of Christ, Catholic tradition on equal par with Scriptures, Mary as the Queen of Heaven and co-redemptress with Christ, auricular confession (confession of one’s sins into the ear of a priest), pilgrimages to “holy shrines,” purgatory, and prayers to and for the dead.

The better question would be: why on earth is the neo-evangelical charismatic and ecumenical Charlie Kirk defending the Latin Mass, a utterly blasphemous and pagan offence against God? Did Kirk know what the mass was? Sure he did. Undoubtedly. Yet he goes to bat for the mass, a blasphemous "re-sacrifice of Christ."

Kirk’s approval of Roman Catholicism and association with her people and priests, and then attempting to bridge the gap, was wrong, sinful and unbiblical, which started at least in early 2024, but maybe even prior to that, where he spoke for the first time in a Catholic church (source). We know he had some association with Catholicism for years, since his wife was Catholic. In effect, he put his and TPUSA's stamp of approval--unwittingly, perhaps, but just as surely--upon the false gospel preached by their Roman Catholic friends.

But we are afraid it gets even worse. There is a man, John Yelp, who has stated that Kirk attended the same "local" Catholic Church as he did (its funny how Catholics steal Biblical words that they don't even believe in, words such as "born again" or "local Church" as Yelp did in an interview, but we also believe that Yelp is a deceptive agent attempting to hijack Kirk for the Catholic church, an evil that Catholicism has specialized in for millennia). This Catholic, CEO & President for Catholics for Catholics, says Kirk was a very good friend, would often share Scripture with him, attended the same church as him, all of which came after requesting a meeting with a Catholic priest a few years ago. We believe there is truth to this, but more-so, Catholicism is attempting to deceptively steal Charlie to themselves for their own glory, which is very, very common in this wicked cult. Charlie was not "converting" to the Catholic church, as this man slanderously claims, even speaking out against Catholicism in some ways, but he was way, way to close to them in yoking with them, attending their perversion, and not condemning their heresies and apostasy and hell-bound ways.

Therefore Rome was able to lie and deceive about Charlie, more examples below, though there was a bit of truth to his illicit relationship with Rome. Let's not forget, he married a Catholic.

The Catholic Vote which is doing their part in seducing and perverting everything that comes with even a hint of Christianity, reports:

“Charlie Kirk showed deep respect toward Catholic faith,” (Sept 11, 2025)

The Catholic News Agency reported,

“Charlie Kirk was ‘this close’ to becoming Catholic” (Sept. 19, 2025)

That is why he wore a “Saint Michael the Archangel Pendant,” which is now worn by Erika (Breitbart, Sept 21, 2025).

Another reported:

“Kirk’s wife is Catholic and for the last few months of his life he had been attending Mass with her” (The American Catholic, “Charlie Kirk and the Catholic Church,” Sept 14, 2025)

This is confirmed by a photo online of him attending mass. Mass is serious blasphemy and a heretical abomination, where they are attempting to re-sacrifice Christ, whereby the blessed wafer, the host, supposedly becomes the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ by the instrumentality of the priestly ritual.  The host is kept in a tabernacle or a monstrance and worshiped as Christ. The mass is called “a re-sacrifice of Christ” by the Second Vatican Council:

“For in it [the wafer] Christ perpetuates in an unbloody manner the sacrifice offered on the cross, offering himself to the Father for the world’s salvation through the ministry of priests” (Vatican Council II, The Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, Instruction on the Worship of the Eucharistic Mystery, Introduction, C 1, 2)

Charlie was okay with that. Obviously he did not believe that Catholics are not Christian’s. But Catholicism is pagan religion through and through and right from its inception, which only grew in unfathomable bounds, exposing its true self as Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore and Mother of all Harlots (Rev 17-18), the biggest cult in the world, the Pharisees of our time (embrace a works-based salvation, embrace rituals and blasphemous sacraments and strict adherence to the law to obtain favour with God). Whores deceive, seduce and corrupt, and that is what Catholicism does on a regular basis, including to Charlie Kirk. God's Word however tells us that apostates are unsaved. True saints, those genuinely born again, do not go back into unfruitful works of darkness, heresy and apostasy, but walk down the narrow path in the opposite direction of that. Contrary to the unbiblical practices of Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, Jesus calls Catholics (along with all other religious cults and apostate groups) “Hypocrites,” “Blind guides,” and “Fools,” which doesn’t sound like He would be trying to work with them. He knows that they believe a lie and need to hear the truth. Accepting false believers and unbelievers as erring Christians rather than completely lost sinners is neither helpful nor Biblical, nor does it reflect the nature of a true Christian, who has real Biblical spiritual discernment (1 Cor 2:14-16). Jesus, had no problem calling out those that professed Christianity but were rejecting Him to follow their own traditions or selfish/sinful ways. The Catholic "gospel" is a false gospel and those that follow it don’t need coddling, they need the truth. Just because they identify as "Christians" doesn't make them any closer to actually being a true Christian and thus saved. A lie is not closer to the truth if it sounds good or cloaked in good intentions and right-wing politics. Satan would love nothing more than to make them think they are close to heaven when in reality they are still in line for the eternal fires of Hell. The truth should be in love, but never replaced by it. Charlie Kirk was NOT reproving aor speaking the truth to people that urgently needed to hear the truth and reproof for their false and deceptive ways.

To whom did Charlie go if having a serious spiritual dilemma? To a Catholic priest. According to Megyn Kelly, Charlie and Erika Kirk were "rattled" by an article in Jezebel that claimed to have paid witches through the online craft company Etsy in the days before his death, contacted the Catholic priest, who then came over and prayed over Charlie.

Candace Owens, the unregenerate and apostate convert to the apostate cult of Roman Catholicism attempted to convert Charlie Kirk to the same hellish cult prior to his death. She claimed Kirk would pray the rosary (which is a series of beads on a string with a cross used in Catholicism, to lead the devout Catholic in praying to Mary, which once again demonstrates that Catholicism in fact idolatrously ascribes qualities of Deity to Mary, the mother of our Lord, while in reality she was a simple sinner, who was converted to Christ like all true born again sinners have been), but no concrete proof of that has been given.

The critical business of exposing Charlie Kirk and TPUSA becomes very evident over this issue alone, never mind everything else mentioned in this report. The urgency of warning of these heresies cannot be overemphasized. He and they associated with Catholicism and refused to condemn its false gospel and many other heresies, which becomes very, very problematic concerning the true gospel and the truth in general. Ecumenical relationships between evangelicals and Catholics is a matter that pertains to the gospel. This is no minor issue. Rome preaches a damnable heresy of a sacramental gospel that is cursed of God and has slammed billions of people into hell. The Council of Trent, reaffirmed by Vatican II, proclaimed,

“If anyone shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified . . . let him be accursed” (Canon 12).

Rome is thus an avowed enemy of the NT faith, but Charlie Kirk (and TPUSA) did not appear to have an issue with it. Their interests and priorities lay in saving America, in uniting anything and everything that comes under the broad banner of Christianity for the greater good of Team America opposing the leftist enemy.

When Kirk and TPUSA associates with and approves of Roman Catholicism, or sugar coats their heresies and damnable heresies, or refuses to acknowledge the very serious dangers in the RCC, those influenced by them, which is literally in the millions of young people, are made to think that Roman Catholicism must be true Christianity. This, like Mormonism, results in a climate created whereby it is very difficult to preach that Catholics need to be born again (the Biblical way, not the Catholic way) and leave their false “church” and cult. Ecumenical heretics break down the walls between truth and error and muddy the waters of the truth, and pure gospel work.

Again, for further reading on the heresies and damnable heresies of Catholicism, see our report: Roman Catholicism vs Biblical Christianity.

More of Charlie’s and TPUSA's Heretical Ecumenicalism and Doctrinal Corruption, Also Present at Charlie's Memorial

Kirk’s objective was to unite the right, and since most of the right is in churches, this is where his focus was, and the reasoning why he would incorporate elements of the gospel into his speeches. In order to do that, he needed to bring all the churches together. In order to do that, he had to severely downgrade doctrine and what unites them. This was written right into the position of TPUSA:

“TPUSA Faith exists to unite the Church around primary doctrine...”

Their definition of "primary doctrine" and thus their doctrinal platform is so unbelievably narrow, it encompasses even the Roman Catholic Church, Mormonism, Charismaticism, Neo-Evangelicalism and practically any other group that comes with the title Christian.

To get to the broad world of ecumenicalism, doctrine must always be undermined and relegated to "essentials" and "non-essentials," and that is exactly what Charlie and TPUSA did. We explore this subject here: The False Practice of Ranking Doctrine into “Essentials” and “Non-Essentials” is Phariseeism. What inevitably happens is you are left with one doctrine, which is the gospel, but that must be horribly compromised as well since all the groups believe in different gospels -- thus in the end you are left with no sound doctrine or sound and pure gospel, only a complete leavening of the lump. And that is exactly what we are witnessing, not only in Charlie and TPUSA, but absolutely everywhere in Christendom besides a few very specific places, and these are found in the Independent Baptists (which has almost comletely capitulated to heresy and apostasy as well).

Kirk rejected ecclesiastical separation and embraced wrong and unsound doctrine and endeavoured to go down the dangerous road to Rome. Jesus however said, "Ye cannot serve two masters.” (Matt 6:23). He wasn't saying that a true believer may sometimes serve one master, and at other times, another master. No, you either serve Master God or Master world/ flesh/ Satan/ mammon. You are either saved or lost, and who you serve according to Scripture is who your Master truly is.

This ecumenicalism could be called Team America and is well represented in Trumps administration itself, where you have representatives from every professing Christian group, sect, cult and religion in America. Their goal is to save America, so we’re going to set aside all our theological differences for the greater political cause. This is always the inevitable result when church and state are amalgamated. I hope you can see how this is exactly the oppose of biblical Christianity.

In all this, they absolutely despise and reject the doctrine of separation. Rejecting God's doctrine of separation however is actually rejecting God Himself. He is separation. You can never know who the true and living God of the Bible is without understanding the doctrine of separation. And you can never be saved, without this understanding, which is why separation is tied intimately into salvation (e.g., 2 Cor 6:14-18). More can be read here on The Biblical Doctrine of Separation and Unscriptural Forms of Separation.

At the memorial on Sept 21, 2025, first a Roman Catholic Priest "preached," then an Evangelical, and then Charismatics (another brand of Evangelical for all intends and purposes). This is all done in the name of politics and many “churches” (majority of which are already heretical and apostate) will follow suit and become even more ecumenical, even starting TPUSA chapters. Ecumenicalism is absolutely wicked.

The memorial was a show of classic and wickedly dangerous one world religion ecumenicalism, and they are all in on it, whether wittingly or unwittingly, and Charlie Kirk was the man that brought them together. Not only in death, but in life as well, exhibiting the same feel-good let’s all be friends ecumenicalism of cults and sects under the umbrella of Christendom. He's not the first to walk that journey. Rome's point is to change the right to the left, from any resemblance of the narrow path unto the broad road, and bring everyone together into a “united” one world church, which is part of the New World Order, and its ALL 💯 Satanic. God is nowhere to be found in any of this wickedness.

“But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.” (1 Cor 10:20-21).

Gods calling to all you heretics that approve of this wickedness:

“And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Rev 18:4)

God’s calling is to salvation, true and genuine conversion, which ties into separation:

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” (2 Cor 6:14-18)

Ecumenical relationships are an exceedingly serious matter with eternally destructive consequences.

Charlie allowed for theistic evolution and the days of Genesis as long ages (“Charlie Kirk educating Bible haters,” Daily Dose of Wisdom, YouTube).

The anemic gospel that was entertained by Kirk and TPUSA was very, very weak and gave most people the false impression they’re saved, when they’re actually not, which follows from the corrupted gospel of Calvary Chapel and Charismaticism that inundated Charlie's life (along with other heretical groups such as Catholicism). This heresy changes the nature of Christianity and a true imagination of God. The doctrine produces worldly people, who call themselves Christians, and that is essentially all of them. They use worldly music and mainly rock because they are spiritually dead and merely serving their lustful and sensual worldly-starving flesh.

Charlie was Governed Not Just by Scripture but also by Money, Leading to UnBiblical Associations and Positions, Incl. A Possible Israel Position Change

Some of Charlie’s Biblical positions were motivated by money (through sponsors), on the back of loose morals, not the Bible. Noted for instance in a recent text prior to his death where he threatened to change from a pro-Israel position, which was leaked postmortem by the anti-Israel Candace Owens:

"Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause." (Charlie Kirk in a group text chat)

TPUSA verified this text on the Charlie Kirk Show. There is a faction in the right in the United States, that has gone anti-Israel, and this leak by Owens plays into that. Tucker Carlson, also going anti-Israel, claimed on his show that Charlie Kirk was resentful towards Benjamin Nethanyu and what Israel was doing in Gaza, a land that belongs 100% to Israel. We believe overall Kirk was a Christian Zionist, which we applaud, but could be persuaded into other directions.

Everyone should be pro-Israel. No, this does not mean you are a closet neo-con, who desires perpetual wars and further nation building in the Middle East, which requires the USA to give billions of dollars to Israel, satisfying their puppet masters in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Quite the opposite in fact. But what is true however is the anti-Israel faction of MAGA has a lot of common ground with leftist support for Islamic devils which includes Palestine (pretty much the very worse of all things evil in Islam), support and coalition for the NY mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, and the young violent protestors on college campuses. Over most of his life, Charlie Kirk was pro-Israel and in his last year he expressed concern about the unfavourability of Israel with Generation Z and how to change that. So we don’t really buy that he was becoming anti-Israel, but he was certainly becoming disenchanted with some of his Jewish sponsors and Israel itself over the Gaza war, but he shouldn’t have. Sadly he was embracing the skewed and dishonest reports coming out of the propaganda of the liars. Israel was cleaning house as they should’ve a long time ago, and quite frankly, they should keep going until not a single Gazan remains. Either leave the country or face death, the only two options. Period. Finish what king Saul didn't. Israel belongs to the Jews, not to the wicked Islamic devils that truthfully belong in the eternal fires of hell. EVERY SINGLE “Palestinian” devil is Hamas. They are ALL the same. Where did the hundreds of thousands of Hamas fighters come from?? Obviously from “Palestinian” (BTW, there is no such thing as “Palestinians,” no such country and no such people have ever existed — these are actually the Amalekites, the people that God commanded king Saul to completely destroy, 1 Sam 15, but he rebelled and disobeyed, and to this day the Hebrews have had to deal with these utterly wicked devils; Further BTW, Haman who attempted to completely destroy the Jewish people in the book of Esther, was an Amalekite).

We do not know for absolute certainty whether Kirk would have left the pro-Israel cause, but it is possible. The very idea of changing his view however tells us that his positions and motives were not being directed by the Bible but by the almighty dollar. Any person that is genuinely converted cannot be moved from a pro-Israel position. Not even possible. When a sinner is born again, he immediately develops a love for Israel and the Jewish people (because of Rom 3:1-2; 9:3-5, and then Rom 5:5, 'the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.") On a side note, NO, his assassination had nothing to do with Israel or the Mossad. What a ridiculous red herring. If Israel was in the business of taking out anti-Israel pundits, it could have and would have already done so hundreds of times, of people more popular than Charlie Kirk (such as Tucker Carlson), but Charlie essentially was not anti-Israel, he often defended Israel and spoke highly of the state, even stating that the most remarkable event in his life was spending time in Israel with his wife.

Charlie's position appeared to be loosely based on the Bible, and maybe more a position of opportune than actual Biblical conviction, noted in the text he allegedly sent and also things he has allegedly stated to Tucker Carlson. Any Biblical mooring he had on Israel was likely based upon the influence of the Pentecost churches he attended, not biblical conviction, which again very likely reflects an unregenerate nature. We have seen this many times within the Republican party, where president Trump has made decisions on Israel with false "peace" reasoning, and a serious lack of knowledge on Israel and its God-given land. This was recently demonstrated with the fake "peace" agreement with the evil Islamic group Hamas, and then after Israel voted to annex the West Bank, which VP JD Vance called an ‘Insult." Why an "insult"? If Catholic Vance, and non-religious Trump actually believed and understood the Bible concerning Israel, they would've never had Israel agree to an anti-Israel "peace treaty." They would also understand that not a single "Palestinian" devil belongs in the land of Israel and that Israel was given to the Jewish people thousands of years ago.

Our love and support for Israel is based upon a Biblical position, which you can read about here: The Land of Israel, the Jew and the Covenants of God vs Replacement Theology (a Doctrine of Devils)

Charlie's Pot-Pourri Buffet of Christianity, Ecumenically Yoked with Politics

Charlie Kirk really represented the pot-pourri of the one world church almost to precision. Neo-evangelicalism, charismaticism, pentecostalism, catholicism, and even some fundamentalism, all mixed into one bag. At Charlie's memorial, a Catholic priest went up to speak some words, while holding up a rosary, which is idolatry and blasphemous. He was proceeded by Frank Turek, a neo-evangelical, who was proceeded by Charismatic/Neo-Evangelical/NAR heretics, occultists and false worshippers such as Kari Jobe, Brandon Lake, and Phil Wickham.

Cross breeding politics and religion is dangerous and heretical.

Ecumenicalism is always a Trojan horse. Let’s all come together and set aside our differences and let’s be united in what we agree with, and that is downgraded to one: the gospel. That’s the only essential and important thing to the ecumenical agenda, everything else is secondary. This is unbiblcial, heretical and exceedingly dangerous. This is how every sort of heresy and false teaching and false gospels and wolves enter in the door. This is purely the agenda of Satan, his MO. But even their gospel is corrupted, so they're not even getting together around that.

Can there be people saved and mixed up into this? I believe there may be, but there will be conviction, an understanding that something is wrong with what they are listening to, and maybe that was Charlie, but I highly doubt it considering the direction he was going prior to his death (anti-Israel, pro-Catholic, attending mass frequently).

As for people getting saved at this memorial, or events such as this, it is naive to think that people will be truly and genuinely converted through this paganism, as Spencer Smith claims in his 7th part of the Charlie Kirk Files. God doesn’t save people outside of His Word. He details exactly how a sinner is saved, and very little of that is found in what transpired after Charlie’s death, or at the memorial.

Family Idolatry and Feminine Divinity.

Another issue is that of family idolatry and feminine divinity. The attention that is given to Charlie’s wife and children, doesn’t just border idolatry, it is idolatry. This is one of the means whereby America has fallen into serious idolatry, noted also in many other areas including sports, movies, famous people, etc, all of which have become idols. The unbiblical attention that is given to women, children and particularly in this case, widows, is idolatrous. The first of God's ten commandments warns against and forbids idols. Idols are whatever Satan and the world system offers as a replacement to God. The Apostle Paul in Rom 1 says men suppress God out of rebellion. The Apostle Peter in 2 Pet 3 says they don't want a boss, because they walk after their lusts. Everything that is an idol is something that God created. Men worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator. And God created the family. The family might not be an idol, but it isn't God and God created it, so it can be one. Very often, the family supplants God. The great commandment is to love God. The second is to love your neighbour. The order is specific, and on purpose. True biblical love is mostly replaced by sentimentalism when it comes to family, when people don't actually love their family, but use their family as an excuse for not loving God or their neighbour. It isn't love for family, but sentimentalism for family. This "love" for family is the enemy of actual love for family. The family rather than a means to an end, becomes the end itself. As an end, it is an idol.

Western nations are gullible on the family. Sentimentalism is bred into our way of life. Paintings are made with family activity in the home, and it brings nostalgia. Stories are written and films are produced with this idyllic portrait of American life with the family at the center. You read the credo, "God, Family, Country," as if it is biblical. Even though it isn't scriptural, the motto itself is sentimental. In so many cases, both family and country take the place of God, and once again we see that centre stage in the Charlie Kirk martyrdom. Yes God is mentioned and the Bible is mentioned, but both are severely corrupted for the sake of family and country. Any time family and country unseat God, they themselves will suffer.

Consider what Jesus and the Apostles said about this. In many ways, the scriptural terms have been hijacked to support what Jesus was against. Matt 10:35 & 37 record the Lord Jesus telling the apostles what to preach as they go preaching the gospel to the lost:

“For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. . . . He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.” (Matt 10:35, 37)

Earlier in Matt 8:21-22, Jesus preached the same message,

“And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.”

Coupled with family idolatry is the feminine divinity, which is obviously also idolatry, and this is centre stage with Erica Kirk.

Erika Kirk was appointed the head of TPUSA immediately after Charlie's death, though the Bible very clearly and plainly forbids women to teach or lead men (1 Tim 2:12-19; 1 Cor 14:34-35):

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." (1 Tim 2:11-12)

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (1 Cor 14:34-35)

No woman teaching or leading men is pertinent to every aspect of life: the home, church, business and nation. Should Women Ever Hold Authority Over Men?

The answer to toxic feminity is not divine feminity.

Here are some of the results of family idolatry (to read more please see our report: The Idolatry of Family - They That Love Their Family More Than Christ, Are Not Worthy of Christ):

• People won’t repent and follow Christ because of family. They might see the cost to great. Being truly converted, embracing the Lord Jesus Christ and His teachings, the whole of God’s Word, might require rejecting family traditions, family members, family religion, family pleasures — but people don’t want to do that. The cost is too high. Jesus said these are not worthy of Him. In other words, they cannot be saved because they will not let go of their idols. They will not “forsake houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for [Christ’s] name's sake,” and therefore not “receive an hundredfold,” and “inherit everlasting life.” (Matt 19:29). We are not saved by good works, but unto good works. But God does not save someone if they have idols in their heart. If you are truly born again through repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ there is actually a very high probability that your family will not go with you in that. You may actually see some family relationships greatly strained or even severed. The Lord Jesus clearly stated that in Matt 8:21-22; 10:32-39; 12:46-50; Lk 2:48-49; 14:25–15:32. All that are truly saved, will put God above their family. And it will demonstrate itself in their lives.

• The family member that is most popular is the one who lets things go. He doesn't say anything about the disobedience or heresy in beliefs of a family member. If he does, he is the worst family member. He is causing disunity in the family. He is not keeping the peace. Of course that is what they think, but the Word of God tells a different story. In this way they also protect family members from discipline. They shield their family from the convicting work of the Word of God.

• Parents adjust their interpretation of the Bible to what their family does. This is a common basis for interpretation of scripture. There are numbers and numbers of examples of this. As children misbehave and veer away, new views of passages emerge. This is a good example of God's warning on wicked men twisting or wresting the scriptures to their own destruction, or privately interpreting the Scriptures, as noted in 2 Pet 3:16-17 and 1:16-21 respectively.

Inevitable Paradoxical Effect:

Downfall of the West, and Building of the One World Church

We believe Charlie had good intentions in many of his positions and endeavours, particularly when it came to his fight for the life of America, but he was deceived in how that comes about and what he was willing to do to bring that to past. Indeed, part of that solution he believed to be the embracement of Christianity, but that wasn't it, at least not not pure and sound Biblical Christianity. Overall we believe Kirk's desire was to see the vile immoral character of America changed, to protect the nation from God’s judgment, since “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God” (Ps 9:17), but by compromising and ecumenicalizing and spiritual adulterating, regardless of how many groups he can band together to hold hands in a kumbayah, the immoral climate of the nation will not change. The west will fall. Only true, sound Biblical preaching and teaching, and practice, especially concerning the gospel, uncompromisingly and doctrinally and ecclesiastically separated as God commands, will bring about a change to people, communities and a nation. This is how America was started, and the only means whereby she can be maintained. But this can only come out of a truly regenerate, saved, born again heart, and local pillar and grounds of the truth filled with true saints, and that right there is the crux of the issue — most are unsaved, false professing "believers," and most churches are not churches at all in light of NT Scripture, and most appear to love to have it so. Consider the dire warning of the Lord:

"They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge. Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jud 5:28-31)

Things might appear to be good and helpful that Charlie Kirk and TPUSA were attempting to achieve, with elements of the gospel being preached, young college-age men and women challenged and turned from evil leftist, woke ideologies that they are being brainwashed into at these terrorist training institutions (i.e. universities and colleges), but what is the long term effect of corrupting the truth, associating with unregenerate and ungodly groups and cults, corrupting Biblical purity and obedience which is promoted under the guise of Christianity?

Charlie was fighting for the life of America, while corrupting and compromising the truth to get there, which he was mostly blind to. At the end, America might be politically “saved,” but she in fact will be utterly destroyed, for any type of reformation or reclamation without the truth is counterfeit, faux, a facade. It won't bring about the real moral transformation for true change that is needed, and sadly any change that will occur will only be temporal, short lived and replaced with something much more evil, This is what ecumenicalism actually creates. Those of the truth will diminish further and further until they became an anomaly that they must be rid of, and in comes the great slaughter of a "great multitude" of saints at some point early on in the Great Tribulation, somewhere between the first seal and fifth seal, detailed in Rev 6:1-11, and Rev 7:9-17.

"And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (Rev 7:13-14)

In the end they are advocating for compromise, not strict and pure obedience to the Bible, promoting ecumenicalism, that all religious groups are okay (because they have some scant hint of truth under the broad umbrella of "Christianity," — they have a "church," with "worship," and a "Bible," and a "pastor" or "priest" to guide the goats, but its man-centred people playing Christianity while "wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked" - Rev 3:17), a bridge to practically every heresy imaginable today, and then ultimately to the Antichrist's one-world church, which they are actively helping to build. The Moral Majority was evil in the 1970's and 80's, and the same ecumenical philosophy is just as demonic today. The one world church is alive and well in America and in TPUSA, and its growing at breakneck speed. Regardless of good and noble intentions, ecumenism is unBiblical and ungodly and reflective of spiritual adultery, and aligned with unregeneracy. The strong glue and sound track that helps to gather all the harlots is the music, the worldly "Christian" contemporary music (CCM), which is false fleshly worship, the anthem of the One-World-Church.

Charlie was a tool to bring together church and state. A voice for both which is extremely problematic and unbiblical and in fact a major mark of the end times Antichrist. We’re not saying Charlie was an antichrist, we don’t believe that at all, but rather this will be a characteristic of the Antichrist, a champion of ecumenicalism and “peace,” uniting in “agreement” in spite of disagreement. He was both but neither church or state — he wasn’t focused on church business and severely compromised the truth, yet a representative of it and then he also wasn’t a politician, but a representative of politics. He amalgamated the two, which is very, very beneficial for churches to fill their pre and for a political party, and why the left had to get rid of him. But in being a hybrid of these two, he had to compromise a lot of biblical truth and deconstruct a lot of the barriers between groups theologically, and he did even admitted to this ecumenicalism.

Many of the problems in America that Charlie and TPUSA were pursuing to solve, come because of the horrible doctrine and practices that Charlie and TPUSA are involved with. Not only the awful ecumenicalism with heretics and apostates of every kind, but also those in his close knit group, even his very church and Rob McCoy, "Charlie's Preacher." This was noted in McCoy's manipulative message at Charlie's memorial, presenting a false gospel and a false Jesus. This is not the example of true believing preachers through the history of true churches. This is a pragmatic, modern method the produces faithlessness and fools people into thinking they’re saved, when they really are not, and in the process, greatly hastening the destruction of America.

A Woman Rides the Beast

In Rev 17:1-5 we have a serious warning from the Lord on the end-times one world church that will be yoked with the state, described as the woman riding the beast. There is no doubt that the descriptions of this chapter and the next, illustrate to nigh perfection the Roman Catholic Church as Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore, the Mother of all Harlots, the woman that rides the beast. She is responsible for creating this evil monstrosity, the Great Whore and Mother of all the little Harlots around the world, which are the denominations and sects and groups under the banner of professing Christianity many of which once came out of her (the Baptists/Anabaptists did NOT come out of Rome — they have always been a separate identity, the true and persecuted Bible believing church that has existed since the 1st century, whose Founder is the Lord Jesus Christ, existing alongside this false and corrupt stream of churches with Rome at the helm). Let us heed the warning of Revelation, which speaks precisely to what is occurring in the America and the rest of the world today (though Rev 17 and 18 will not be fulfilled in completion and consummation until the 7-year Great Tribulation period, aka., the 70th Week of Daniel,, the Time of Jacobs Trouble):

“And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17:1-5)

The heretical ecumenicalism we are witnessing with TPUSA and so many other “Christian” groups and sects, is being marketed as “revival,” a word most people do not understand. It’s not a “revival” in any sense of the word, not even in the sense of the misused word. What it is, is plain apostasy and satanic one world religion, as eschatologically prophesied in scripture. JD Vance is one such individual that has coined this “revival.” As much I appreciate Vance, a devout Catholic, he is dead wrong, but he is an ecumenical champion, a Catholic married to a Hindu. This is the modus operandi of mystery Babylon, the Great Whore and Mother of all the Harlots around the world, which started in the days of the kingdom of Babylon, the first of history’s four super powers, and continues on today since the fourth century as the Roman Catholic Church, the splintered, weak remnant of the fourth world superpower (part iron and clay - Dan 2:31-45).

In fact, what Constantine created in the 4th century was the merging of church and state, driven by a lust for power, and on the back of a false profession of Christianity, a true wolf in sheep’s clothing. This is what ecumenicalism does and pursues and Rome is at the helm. She seduces and deceives, corrupting and perverting the truth and people and enticing them into spiritual adultery, making them drunk with the wine of her fornication.

This is what TPUSA is doing, and it started with Charlie Kirk, the merger of state and church, the one world church, the woman riding the beast (Rev 17). They are duplicating what Constantine did in the 4th century, amalgamating the state and the church, and that requires all churches and Christian sects and other religions to get on board agree to disagree and find “common ground.” The compromise knows no end. Evangelical heretics have been working at this for decades (e.g., “Evangelicals and Catholic Together”), because they are wolves in sheep's clothing (e.g., Billy Graham, Rick Warren, John Piper), but this is now done in the name of saving America, amalgamating right wing politics with religion.

When you look at the Trump administration, you see this ecumenical buffet of almost every single cult and heretical Christian group, even other world religions. Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, Episcopalians, Methodist, Reformed Calvinists, Evangelicals, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Hindus, secular Moslems, Agnostics, etc. This is what the one world church looks like, and it is what TPUSA and Charlie Kirk embraced and advanced.

Look at the upcoming tour of TPUSA, a picture of ungodly ecumenicalism:

Sharing the stage and promoting TPUSA we find Catholics, Evanjellyfish, Mormons, and even Hindus. Michael Knowles and Meghan Kelly and Rob Schneider are all Catholics. Vivek Ramaswamy is a Hindu. Glen Beck is a Mormon. Tucker Carlson is an anti-semitic Episcopalian. And then you have Frank Turek the Evangelical, sharing the stage with a devout hard core Roman Catholic Rob Schneider. Wicked compromise, reflects a wolf nature. Politicians of any and every sect or cult you can think of are invited on to the stage, as long as you lean right. Wow, the melting pot of ecumenical hand holding. How sweet. The things they will accomplish to save America should be written in the American Hall of Fame. Not. This is what right wing politics has boiled down to, in the name of saving America, and what Charlie Kirk was creating in TPUSA, regardless of how good his intentions were. He was really in many ways no different than any other ecumenical compromiser, noted in the conferences he attended and maybe even hosted, such as the following, the church he attended:

Almost everybody’s on board the Ecumenical black train after Charlie’s death. They’ve had requests for nearly 20,000 new chapters, most of which are coming through denominations and churches. This is crazy but it shows how on board everyone is with the one world church, hitching a ride with the woman riding the beast.

Yoking with Catholics and Mormons and Charismatics is not the distinctive narrow way of true salvation (Mat 7:13-14). The Bible has made it clear that the business of His redeemed people for this age is the Great Commission, single hearted obedience to the Word of God, and the local church (Matt 28:18-20; Jn 14:15-24; 1 Tim 3:15). It is impossible to obey God's Word in every way, especially the Lord Jesus Christ's Great Commission (“teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you” Matt 18:20) while pursuing ecumenicalism with every group that claims the title Christian. Error and sin does not promote righteousness.

What is needed is of the kind of Biblical preaching we see in Scripture, the OT prophets and the NT apostles. For instance, the public call for the execution of all sodomites will help bring about the change needed and God's judgment withheld (see Rom 1:32; 13:1-5; Lev 20:13; 1 Ki 15:12; 22:46).

The end result of compromise, ecumenicalism, and other wilful heresy is the complete leavening of the lump, which occurs personally, familia, ecclesiastically, and nationally. Though the warning against leaven is directed at professing Christians and churches, concerning both sin (1 Cor 5:6) and doctrinal error (Gal 5:9), its principles extend to any place that infers the title Christian.

Was Kirk a Martyr?

Charlie might have been a political martyr, even a martyr for a righteous cause, but we do not believe him to be a Christian martyr by Biblical standard. To be a true martyr of Christ is to be a born again believer that dies for his faith, specifically for the faith, like William Tyndale for instance, or The Last Martyr on Bloody Mary's Execution List, or Blind Chang. This is not really what occurred with Charlie. He was murdered for speaking out against the evils being pushed upon society by wicked people, which is nonetheless praiseworthy but it isn't Biblical martyrdom. The Bible exemplifies the Christian martyr with many examples (James, Stephen, OT prophets). Many people are called martyrs for Christ, but they never actually knew Christ at a personal, relational and forgiven level. For instance, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, an apostate of grace. He is not the only one, only one of the more popular. Millions of professing Christians over the centuries have been martyred for their faith, but many of them were never actual true and genuine born again Christians. They were "Christian" by name only, what we term "nominal Christians." Over 50 million professing Christians were murdered by the Roman Catholic Church (yes the very same cult that Charlie called "fabulous") during the dark ages, but of these, many were martyred for other reasons than faithfulness to Christ. Almost all dissent of Rome was punishable by death. This continues to occur on a daily basis in Asian and African lands, where Islam seeks to dominate the nation and the world, and goes around slaughtering those that profess to be Christian and oppose Islam. Where's the uproar over this by the way, and indeed we should defend the people who are being attacked by Moslem devils who are servants of Satan, but defending the professing Christians does not correlate with accepting them as genuine converts. Their false beliefs and false gospel and lack of the new birth (most of these churches embrace a works gospel, and many, many other heresies) points to the fact they are mostly not, but we must still defend their rights to live, and against these savage barbarians.

The same goes for Charlie Kirk.

The deeper question that must be asked is this: was Charlie Kirk a true born again Christian?

We believe in many cases we can know whether someone is truly regenerate by God the Spirit, but not always is the case with absolute certainty, seeing that we see only the external fruit and evidence (which again should be sufficient, since God's Word says it is sufficient -- i.e., 1 John, James, many other places such as Jn 8:31-36, etc), yet because of man's incredible ability to deceive and that we cannot see the heart, the born again believer can be misled. Concerning Kirk we are on the fence, because of the great conflicts that existed in his life. In a sense he appeared to preach some good truth, but then on the other hand, he embraced false doctrine, heresies, and openly associated with heretics and apostates, including those within cults. The latter is condemned in Scripture in the light of unregeneracy. I can sense the neo-evangelicals seething and frothing at the mouth, throwing the invectives, ‘who do you think you are: God?’ Why don t you let God do the judging?’ Yes, let's allow God to judge, we couldn't agree more. God has in fact judged already, and those that have an issue with us judging, prove real fast that they do not know or believe the Word of God, or have a big problem with the Word of God . Oh yes they have many logical fallacies they can throw up right now, and give lip service to their supposed allegiance and faith, but they actually don't. For if they did, they would totally understand that the Word of God contains every word whereby man will be judged one day ("He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day" - Jn 12:48), and every single true born again believer has access to every single one of those inspired words, which he believes, knows and understands because his blinded eyes have been opened, his spirit has been quickened, and the Holy Spirit, "the Spirit of truth" (Jn 14:17; 15:26; 16:23), dwells within him so he can spiritual discern, understand, rightly divide and literally interpret the words of the living God. So when the saint judges righteous judgment as commanded (Jn 7:24 -- which is judging by the Word of God), his judgment is in fact the judgment of God. And of course there are important reasons why we judge someones profession of faith, not excluding the command to only be in fellowship with true believers, and to warn about false believers/teachers, both of which would be impossible without judging the person. Read here if you disagree with this position: Can We Judge Someone to be Unsaved? Such as the Reformers or John Wesley?

I really, really want to believe that he was a true believer. There are things that appear to point in that direction, such as his periodical mentioning of the gospel or we should say elements of it, his stand for some Biblical truths, his compassion for teaching and contending against young men and women seriously deceived by evil with many of these hateful towards him and threatening violence, but the criteria for knowing whether someone is truly born again or not is what scripture tells us. The complete picture, not just some pieces.

According to what Scripture says, very likely no to the question. He certainly had a desire for some form of Christianity, and a passionate desire for people to attend church (but what "church"), and to know about Jesus Christ, and on occasion even spoke truth about the gospel, but that was overshadowed with his desire to save America at any cost, even the cost of the truth and the gospel, which we have substantially proven here. Two points on its own proves this beyond any doubt: Ecumenicalism and in his disagreements with Catholicism, not one word about their false gospel of works, which is very prevalent in Rome, and must be abided in, or you cannot be a member of Rome. The Catholic baby is born into this cult and becomes a slave to its bondage of justification by works, which is horrible and difficult to unshackle, yet not one iota of issue with it by Charlie. Clearly he doesn't actually care about the gospel, or about sinners need of salvation (which includes all Catholics and Mormons), or about advancing the plain hard truth of God's Word. Thus, theologically, to many oppositions to God's Word existed, plus the big red flag of not actually having a Biblical testimony of conversion ("Charlie's Pastor" Rob McCoy stated at Charlie's memorial service: “Charlie knew … at an early age … he entrusted his life to the Savior of the World.") The new birth has a very definitive instantaneous time, and we do not see that in Charlies life, only "at an early age," which always is the cop out for those who do not have a genuine testimony of repentance and conversion. >99% of all childhood testimonies are not true or real. The children were not born again, a subject we cover often and here specifically: The Counterfeit Salvation of Doubting, Uncertainty and Rededication, Frequently Accompanied with Asking Jesus Into The Heart. There are some very serious issues with his spirituality. For instance, Charlie was extremely ecumenical and there are some that say he was taking steps to join the Catholic church when he was killed. He spoke highly of Catholicism, Mormonism, embraced false worship, Pentecostalism, and was an Ecumenist. This point alone proves he was very likely not a true born again believer. NO truly regenerated saint of God reverts from the truth into apostasy. God’s Word says it’s not actually possible (Mk 13:22), and at the most, the false teacher can negatively influence the saint to "fall from your own stedfastness." (2 Pet 3:16-1).

The fact that Erica has continued embracing her Catholic heritage, rosaries, Queen Mary of Heaven, and all the rest of the Catholic dogma, plainly indicates she doesn't know Jesus Christ, but Charlies infatuation with the Catholic church, and alleged attendance there, proves that neither he was saved. Just because he was "conservative" and patriotic and fighting to save America, doesn't make him a Christian, a hero, or an example to follow because he was murdered. The ecumenicalism of Charlie and TPUSA is dangerous, destructive, ungodly, and demonic and it will absolutely destroy truth and America for that matter.

Worth mentioning is the forgiveness by Erica Kirk of her husband’s despicable murderer, which, when genuine, takes more grace than can be expressed by mere words. She did that at his memorial, before millions of viewers and an audience of at least one hundred thousand people. It is a moment of love for an enemy that the enemy certainly didn’t deserve. Though we applaud Erica's example of forgiveness, this in of itself does not necessarily mean that Erica was a born again Christian. It doesn't. Pr 16:6 tells us, "By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil." There is an appearance of mercy in forgiveness, but mercy divorced from truth is not true Biblical forgiveness. Furthermore, many times these are emotional reactions, not taking heed to self. Truth, and God's justice demanded by truth, requires justice for the slain, for the innocent, yet that subject is not even darkened. Thus, no fear of the Lord is being invoked, and hence, men not departing from evil. This combined with offering forgiveness divorced from repentance, happens to be a major cause of the deluded, corrupt, perverted and apostate adulterous "Christianity" of the 21st century, with practically every church loaded with false hypocritical "believers" that've never been regenerated. They are always being forgiven by someone, all the while never repentant. God's plain and simple method of forgiveness is described in Lk 17:3, "Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him." Four things are occuring here: 1. Someone trespasses against you. 2. You rebuke him. 3. He repents. 4. You forgive him. That is the process of true and genuine forgiveness. When Amish parents forgave the drunk driver who ran over a dozen of their children back in the 1990's in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, killing over half of them, or a teen driver who killed three children of the same family this year (2025) in Indiana, or the Amish family that forgave the milkman who murdered five young Amish girls in a school house also in Lancaster County, tragedies that have played out multiple times in these environments, and though this unselfish act of forgiveness be praiseworthy, they were not coming from the lips of a people that were genuinely converted to Christ. We love the Amish-Mennonites, because that is our heritage, and we applaud any such forgiveness that is genuine in very difficult circumstances (though we question the motives behind the forgiveness, a subject for another day), these and many more of these sects are unsaved individuals embracing a false gospel of works, and forgiving those who have wronged them is part of that salvation process. It is necessary in the face of their church and the world watching (the image it portrays), and many times it comes not from a true heart of forgiveness but a false humility spurred by an ulterior motive and an uncontrolled emotional reaction (this we know for many reasons, including the fact that they do not extend that same forgiveness to people they have excommunicated from their own church). Though unsaved people can genuinely forgive someone of course, and it is certainly true that every true child of God has a forgiving nature (Matt 18:21-36), because they have been forgiven for much (Eph 4:32), our point here is that forgiving someone does not indicate the forgiver is a true regenerate child of God, which is how many correlate Erica Kirk's forgiveness.

We have never heard a testimony of salvation from Erica (though that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but she definitely doesn't speak of one, which is a red flag), but we do know of her Catholic background and continuation in that belief, which on its own reflects a 100% unregenerate nature. Period. You cannot believe and embrace Catholic dogma and be a born again Christian. These two things clash at the most fundamental levels. No, Menno Simons did not continue to belief the dogmas of Catholicism though it took him five years to come out of her after his new birth -- his goal and objective was to preach to those that he loved and to change the great whore and mother of all harlots into a bride of Christ. Of course that doesn't work, which he discovered to his dismay, and there is good reason why the Roman Catholic Church hunted for him for the greater part of the remainder of his life. His preaching against Catholicism and the antichrist Pope would make the hair of most stand up on the back of their neck, and its certainly a lot different than how Charlie and Erica Kirk handled the Roman Catholic Church. Ironically, Simons would've also preached vehemently against the Christianity of Charlie Kirk and TPUSA, . We know that because of what he wrote and preached against concerning the worldliness and errors of many that were professing Christ in his day during the 16th century, and worldliness and blatant Biblical disobedience in that day was practically child's play in comparison to today.

True biblical salvation comes with substance, fruit and evidence, what the bible details for us. Entire epistles are written with this theme in mind: e.g. 1 John, James. These are written so we can know we are saved (or get saved if one comes to understand they are unsaved), and whether someone else is saved, since our fellowship depends upon it, and our preaching will be geared around it. If someone is truly born again in the Roman Catholic Church (which would be entirely in spite of the Roman Catholic Church, since they are miles away from the truth of the gospel), he will come out of that mess of heresy, false teachings, blasphemy and idolatry, run by the Antichrist. He won't stay in it, because it 100% contradicts what he or she now believes and will be greatly convicted over her idolatrous heresies, and God's Word commands separation (e.g. 2 Cor 6:14-7:1; Rom 16:17; 1 Tim 6:3-5; 2 Jn 1:9-11; etc) and all true born again believers obey God's words, commandments, decrees, because they love Him, while those that don't, don't actually love Him because they don't actually belong to Him (read 1 Jn 2:3-5; Jn 14:23-24). God's Word is extremely clear on this subject. The same applies to the Charismatic.

If Charlie was a true born again believer, why did he marry an unbeliever, a clearly unsaved woman? A woman who was a Catholic, which Kirk considered Biblical Christianity. His alleged professions of faith came before his marriage, so he wilfully entered into a marriage covenant with a woman that could not be regenerate. The Bible says the true born again believer does not yoke with an unbeliever, and in no area of life is a yoke more complete than in holy matrimony. The Bible however says that the truly saved born again saint separated himself from the false religious and secular world, from "unrighteousness," from "darkness," from "Belial," from "infidels," from "idols;" he "came out from among them" and was "separated," and turned from "the unclean thing," and God received him, as promised, "I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty" (2 Cor 6:14-18), which continues on in the Christian life habitually (2 Cor 7:1) -- but Charlie Kirk did not (evident not only in his marriage but in many, many other ecumenical endeavours). 2 Cor 6:14-18 is the testimony of salvation of every truly repentant sinner, but not only is it not present in Charlie Kirks life, the very opposite has in fact occurred.

Conclusion

As stated at the beginning of this report, we wish we could have written a positive report on Charlie Kirk, and glory in his martyrdom, but that simply has not been possible.

While appreciating any good thing present in groups such as TPUSA, and any furtherance of the kingdom of God, we are going to obey God’s Word and mark and avoid error (Rom 16:17) and give our full attention to proclaiming and obeying the whole counsel of God. We refuse to join hands with any remnant of heresy or apostasy or ecumenicalism, especially if it is labeled “evangelical” or "Catholic" for a political agenda or any other purpose. We refuse to give a false balance concerning these matters, and are fully convinced that "Thou [Charlie Kirk and TPUSA] art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting." (Dan 5:27).

Scripture warns us of the spiritual climate of these days:

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." (2 Tim 4:3-4)

We call upon all born again believers to remove themselves from these spiritually deadly environments and influences, to separate and divide from all heresy and compromise and disobedience to God's Word, a calling that extends to the unsaved as well.

"The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead." (Pr 21:16)

"Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding." (Pr 9:6)